All of that and UPF diet as well!Cousin Jack wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 3:36 pm I am constantly amazed at how many teenagers and younger kids suffer from anxiety. In my yoof it was not unknown but pretty rare. Today it is endemic.
I am from the 'FFS Man up!' generation but even I can see that something is going very wrong.
Social media, parenting, pollution? I don't know the answer but some serious is needed PDQ.
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Combination of all of the above, probably.
I do wonder what I did 'wrong' in bring up the Gremlinette with these issues. Were we too soft, too strict, too generous? Who knows?
One or two sleepless nights pondering that one.
I do wonder what I did 'wrong' in bring up the Gremlinette with these issues. Were we too soft, too strict, too generous? Who knows?
One or two sleepless nights pondering that one.
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I don't think you have done anything wrong, I do think that as a society we have done a shit job.gremlin wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 3:51 pm Combination of all of the above, probably.
I do wonder what I did 'wrong' in bring up the Gremlinette with these issues. Were we too soft, too strict, too generous? Who knows?
One or two sleepless nights pondering that one.![]()
Had a serious discussion with my daughter a while ago. She reckoned we had struck the right balance, but at the time she thought we were too strict and too tight
I always believe that my job as a parent is to equip them for life. That means doing everything for them to start, and then making my job redundant over about 20 years. Let them make small decisions, and small mistakes. Gradually increase the size of the decision, and hope they don't make a really big mistake.
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We have a big step in the right direction. My daughter has decided to display her art at a Community Gathering hosted by my church. A small local thing, but a huge step for her. She is actually excited about putting her art out for people to see. She has done various lino prints and drawings, watercolours and line drawings. I'm hugely proud of her and very excited that she has made this step. Proud dad!
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One who forgives an affront fosters friendship, but one who dwells on disputes will alienate a friend.
One who forgives an affront fosters friendship, but one who dwells on disputes will alienate a friend.
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She managed to cope with most of the day 10.30 to 2pm. Closed up at just after 3pm. She sold quite a few items and was asked to think about illustrating a children's fairy story book. Needless to say she is now exhausted and wiped out by the experience, but there are some positive thoughts about how it all went, lots of good engagements with young and old alike who loved what she had produced.
Proverbs 17:9
One who forgives an affront fosters friendship, but one who dwells on disputes will alienate a friend.
One who forgives an affront fosters friendship, but one who dwells on disputes will alienate a friend.
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Very proud parent there.the_priest wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2026 9:18 pm She managed to cope with most of the day 10.30 to 2pm. Closed up at just after 3pm. She sold quite a few items and was asked to think about illustrating a children's fairy story book. Needless to say she is now exhausted and wiped out by the experience, but there are some positive thoughts about how it all went, lots of good engagements with young and old alike who loved what she had produced.
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That's awesomethe_priest wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2026 9:18 pm She managed to cope with most of the day 10.30 to 2pm. Closed up at just after 3pm. She sold quite a few items and was asked to think about illustrating a children's fairy story book. Needless to say she is now exhausted and wiped out by the experience, but there are some positive thoughts about how it all went, lots of good engagements with young and old alike who loved what she had produced.
(Just an aside about illustrating the children's book - this is worth A LOT of money. Do some research/get her to do some research. I asked a friend do a quote for another friend and I was shocked at the quote!! Just don't want her to be taken advantage of because she's good but new at selling. Have a look at things with her - but serious kudos to her that she's been asked
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I can still procrastinate with the best but I am definitely improving. One thing that is perhaps a good side to procrastination is that you can come across interesting conversations about all sorts of things. I found the one below very interesting.
Back in 2000 when I was taking the pills I was well aware that they wouldn't cure me but would allow me to get on with my life a bit better and after discussing with my doctor about coming off the pills I got back into physical exercise and keeping busy. I was doing agency driving work and one firm offered me a permanent post which I took. Having to get up for work and pushing out some exercise in the evenings (rowing mostly, some calisthenics) really helped my head and the pills were done with in a few months. The loss of my wife in 2011 would easily have been a step back into depression but the only forward planning I did while she was failing was to work on what would prevent that. I maintained the exercise regime as best I could then increased it after she died. I kept busy, making boats etc without any thought about where I was going to keep them.
I know I need to get back into the same sort of regime, certainly the exercise bit but the arthritis in the hip prevented that - I really didn't want to make things worse. But it's sorted now and I can move well, take the stairs two at a time etc. and have also been up the hills with friends - and that is the thing, if I'm asked to do anything I'll be there and get on with it. I still struggle to do things for myself.
So this YouTube video popped up and made a whole lot of sense to me. I've been reminded that I have to get out of this hole by myself. I don't want to take the pills but reducing them without an exit plan will be stupid. I'm going to have to get the rowing machine out of storage.
Anyway, interesting for me but ymmv.
Back in 2000 when I was taking the pills I was well aware that they wouldn't cure me but would allow me to get on with my life a bit better and after discussing with my doctor about coming off the pills I got back into physical exercise and keeping busy. I was doing agency driving work and one firm offered me a permanent post which I took. Having to get up for work and pushing out some exercise in the evenings (rowing mostly, some calisthenics) really helped my head and the pills were done with in a few months. The loss of my wife in 2011 would easily have been a step back into depression but the only forward planning I did while she was failing was to work on what would prevent that. I maintained the exercise regime as best I could then increased it after she died. I kept busy, making boats etc without any thought about where I was going to keep them.
I know I need to get back into the same sort of regime, certainly the exercise bit but the arthritis in the hip prevented that - I really didn't want to make things worse. But it's sorted now and I can move well, take the stairs two at a time etc. and have also been up the hills with friends - and that is the thing, if I'm asked to do anything I'll be there and get on with it. I still struggle to do things for myself.
So this YouTube video popped up and made a whole lot of sense to me. I've been reminded that I have to get out of this hole by myself. I don't want to take the pills but reducing them without an exit plan will be stupid. I'm going to have to get the rowing machine out of storage.
Anyway, interesting for me but ymmv.
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I think part of the problem is that it is/can be different for everyone. What I suffer from now is not at all the same as the depression I had in my 20's or the pure misery of a few years ago. In my head I think the first was chemical imbalance (and or hormones!), the middle was a bit major and cause by incidents that had happened and my inability to deal with them. Now? Pretty sure I'm just fed up of being constantly brokenYambo wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2026 4:11 pm I can still procrastinate with the best but I am definitely improving. One thing that is perhaps a good side to procrastination is that you can come across interesting conversations about all sorts of things. I found the one below very interesting.
Back in 2000 when I was taking the pills I was well aware that they wouldn't cure me but would allow me to get on with my life a bit better and after discussing with my doctor about coming off the pills I got back into physical exercise and keeping busy. I was doing agency driving work and one firm offered me a permanent post which I took. Having to get up for work and pushing out some exercise in the evenings (rowing mostly, some calisthenics) really helped my head and the pills were done with in a few months. The loss of my wife in 2011 would easily have been a step back into depression but the only forward planning I did while she was failing was to work on what would prevent that. I maintained the exercise regime as best I could then increased it after she died. I kept busy, making boats etc without any thought about where I was going to keep them.
I know I need to get back into the same sort of regime, certainly the exercise bit but the arthritis in the hip prevented that - I really didn't want to make things worse. But it's sorted now and I can move well, take the stairs two at a time etc. and have also been up the hills with friends - and that is the thing, if I'm asked to do anything I'll be there and get on with it. I still struggle to do things for myself.
So this YouTube video popped up and made a whole lot of sense to me. I've been reminded that I have to get out of this hole by myself. I don't want to take the pills but reducing them without an exit plan will be stupid. I'm going to have to get the rowing machine out of storage.
Anyway, interesting for me but ymmv.
It is so very individual that each person need to find out the reason for themselves
BUT - so glad you hear you are battling on
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Sadly the answers have to be yes to get any hope of support in any meaningful way. My daughters suicidal thoughts are still there, albeit reduced and no longer (to our knowledge) self harming......... wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2026 9:20 pm Wasasked5 times during my pip assessment if I had thought about s err lfharmor suicidalthoigjtslerhaps the tricks to ssyes
Hope that you get the support you need to make progress to where you are feeling safe and secure and able to be yourself.
Proverbs 17:9
One who forgives an affront fosters friendship, but one who dwells on disputes will alienate a friend.
One who forgives an affront fosters friendship, but one who dwells on disputes will alienate a friend.
