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weeksy wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 12:18 pm LOL shouldn't they have mentioned that at the time ?

My thoughts exactly...

Be careful my brother has just been royally ripped off on an engine rebuild for his van

Eclipse wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 10:05 pm Be careful my brother has just been royally ripped off on an engine rebuild for his van

Yes, I'll give them this one, but my patience is wearing thinner.

So it turns out that the much-maligned French garagiste was right all along...

The local VW specialist have just admitted that the van does 'rather annoyingly' (their phrase, not mine) have a blown head gasket.

They've kindly offered to fix it for £2 - £2.5k. I think I might decline their kind offer, seeing as how they've been in denial up till now.

Expect my responses to anything for the next few days to be somewhat grumpy (understated mode fully engaged)...

mangocrazy wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:47 am So it turns out that the much-maligned French garagiste was right all along...

The local VW specialist have just admitted that the van does 'rather annoyingly' (their phrase, not mine) have a blown head gasket.

They've kindly offered to fix it for £2 - £2.5k. I think I might decline their kind offer, seeing as how they've been in denial up till now.

Expect my responses to anything for the next few days to be somewhat grumpy (understated mode fully engaged)...

Well i don't see how this changes anything ? The rad was obviously an issue, but a secondary issue rather than the primary cause. So even if you'd had the head gasket done first, you'd then still have the radiator issue ?

If the head gasket has gone, the engine must have overheated at some point... due to a leaky radiator?

weeksy wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:49 am

mangocrazy wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:47 am So it turns out that the much-maligned French garagiste was right all along...

The local VW specialist have just admitted that the van does 'rather annoyingly' (their phrase, not mine) have a blown head gasket.

They've kindly offered to fix it for £2 - £2.5k. I think I might decline their kind offer, seeing as how they've been in denial up till now.

Expect my responses to anything for the next few days to be somewhat grumpy (understated mode fully engaged)...

Well i don't see how this changes anything ? The rad was obviously an issue, but a secondary issue rather than the primary cause. So even if you'd had the head gasket done first, you'd then still have the radiator issue ?

Yes, don't disagree at all, but having been lead to believe I'd dodged a bullet I found out that I haven't actually. What it changes will be the amount it costs me and the time it takes to fix. That is somewhat disappointing, I'm sure you'd agree?

This is against the background of Autohaus Dolby having consistently poo-pooed the French garagiste's diagnosis and pouring scorn on the possibility of it being a head gasket issue.

KungFooBob wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 12:00 pm If the head gasket has gone, the engine must have overheated at some point... due to a leaky radiator?

Yeah, quite possibly. What I've learned is that the temperature reading on the dash is controlled by the ECU and not directly connected to a sensor, so it's entirely possible for the engine to overheat but the reading to be reassuringly steady at 90 deg C.

mangocrazy wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 12:14 pm

weeksy wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:49 am

mangocrazy wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:47 am So it turns out that the much-maligned French garagiste was right all along...

The local VW specialist have just admitted that the van does 'rather annoyingly' (their phrase, not mine) have a blown head gasket.

They've kindly offered to fix it for £2 - £2.5k. I think I might decline their kind offer, seeing as how they've been in denial up till now.

Expect my responses to anything for the next few days to be somewhat grumpy (understated mode fully engaged)...

Well i don't see how this changes anything ? The rad was obviously an issue, but a secondary issue rather than the primary cause. So even if you'd had the head gasket done first, you'd then still have the radiator issue ?

Yes, don't disagree at all, but having been lead to believe I'd dodged a bullet I found out that I haven't actually. What it changes will be the amount it costs me and the time it takes to fix. That is somewhat disappointing, I'm sure you'd agree?

This is against the background of Autohaus Dolby having consistently poo-pooed the French garagiste's diagnosis and pouring scorn on the possibility of it being a head gasket issue.

disappointing of course, but like i say, it's where you were anyway, you just didn't know it at the time..

I've always suspected that the head gasket was the root issue, but allowed myself a little bit of hope when they said the radiator had a leak.

That hope has now been extinguished and I'm back to considering options.

But at least I'm doing it from home in Sheffield having made the journey back with a van full of motorbike, wine, cat and wife.

mangocrazy wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 12:31 pm I've always suspected that the head gasket was the root issue, but allowed myself a little bit of hope when they said the radiator had a leak.

That hope has now been extinguished and I'm back to considering options.

But at least I'm doing it from home in Sheffield having made the journey back with a van full of motorbike, wine, cat and wife.

OK, lets get searching for a new van then

What's the list/criteria ?

mangocrazy wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 12:31 pm I've always suspected that the head gasket was the root issue, but allowed myself a little bit of hope when they said the radiator had a leak.

That hope has now been extinguished and I'm back to considering options.

But at least I'm doing it from home in Sheffield having made the journey back with a van full of motorbike, wine, cat and wife.

So - call it 3K for a fixed up engine in a van that you otherwise trust (I think?),
or
£XXXX for a van that is new to you.

(solve for the value of X).

To add to the pricing equation I should add that this calendar year I have spent £2300 on the van (new radiator, gear linkage rebuild, timing chain, water pump, new rocker cover and sundry gaskets/o-rings to fix oil leaks, new door linkage mechanism) so if I were to scrap the van now I'd be kissing goodbye to all that dosh I've spent recently.

So while it may be seen as throwing good money after bad, I'm intending to keep the van and get the head gasket fixed one way or another. This may be a new recon engine or a head gasket repair. I'll need to ring round and start getting prices.

And I know @weeksy is gagging to start looking for vans on my behalf, but you'll have to wait a little longer mate...

mangocrazy wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 12:59 pm To add to the pricing equation I should add that this calendar year I have spent £2300 on the van (new radiator, gear linkage rebuild, timing chain, water pump, new rocker cover and sundry gaskets/o-rings to fix oil leaks, new door linkage mechanism) so if I were to scrap the van now I'd be kissing goodbye to all that dosh I've spent recently.

So while it may be seen as throwing good money after bad, I'm intending to keep the van and get the head gasket fixed one way or another. This may be a new recon engine or a head gasket repair. I'll need to ring round and start getting prices.

And I know @weeksy is gagging to start looking for vans on my behalf, but you'll have to wait a little longer mate...

Lol I'm all good with whatever you do

So now you're going to be nearly £6000 in repairs this year??

weeksy wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:18 pm Lol I'm all good with whatever you do

So now you're going to be nearly £6000 in repairs this year??

It's looking that way. I think it might be wise to put it in for an early MoT before I proceed with the head gasket fix tho'...

That's a lot to stick into an old van IMO.

But as said, who knows why someone is offloading the next one you buy? How hard can a head gasket be to change anyway (yes I know the head / block may be distorted).

iansoady wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:40 pm But as said, who knows why someone is offloading the next one you buy? How hard can a head gasket be to change anyway (yes I know the head / block may be distorted).

How many people 'offload' cars because they're problems ? Rather than "i just want a new vehicle".. Plenty of people buy, sell, change, swap cars or vans, doesn't mean they're fucked.
Plenty of vans are bought on contract purchases, plenty bought for VAT/work reasons and swapped at a certain time/age/miles... Nothing more than that necessarily.

weeksy wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:35 pm That's a lot to stick into an old van IMO.

Yeah, take your point. Probably time to step back and see what the cost to change will be. If I had a clear preference for a replacement it might be an easier choice, but I don't. I've got until spring 2025 before I actually need a van (we have a car for general runabout stuff) so no need to be hasty.

weeksy wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:42 pm

iansoady wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:40 pm But as said, who knows why someone is offloading the next one you buy? How hard can a head gasket be to change anyway (yes I know the head / block may be distorted).

How many people 'offload' cars because they're problems ? Rather than "i just want a new vehicle".. Plenty of people buy, sell, change, swap cars or vans, doesn't mean they're fucked.
Plenty of vans are bought on contract purchases, plenty bought for VAT/work reasons and swapped at a certain time/age/miles... Nothing more than that necessarily.

I know that you are right, mostly.

But on the flip side I'm still paying for a van I bought for the business that blew up ten days later and the garage refused to cancel the sale - by the time the bailiffs went in to try and recoup the money, they'd closed the business leaving at least one other customer in a similar position to me (the bailiffs had been there for another case exactly like mine a few days before). It's cost me at least twice what the price was

In manogcrazy's position I think (if the MOT was good) I'd be pretty tempted to not 'waste' what I'd spent so far and spend the rest - at least then I'd have a van that would last a decent amount of time and no worries for the replacement

But I'm not the best vehicle buyer!!