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Motoring is only going to get more expensive, we’ve had the years of cheap transport and fuel. Another 50-100 years and owning your own personal transport you drive yourself will be consigned to history. People that can’t afford the new autonomous transport will move back to big cities in droves. There will become an even bigger gap between haves and have nots. Demolition man will look more like a documentary than a rubbish filmPotter wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 2:10 pm Follow the money.
People are investing in commodity ETFs in anticipation of rising prices, I've just thrown a decent chunk into a base metals one and another into a transition components one, these funds are created on the basis that the underlying assets (like copper, lithium, switching raw materials, etc) are going to rise in value.
EV motoring is cheaper now than it ever will be, and it doesn't make much financial sense now unless you have space to charge overnight and do short journeys, and even then a cheap petrol car is probably cheaper.
It's only going to get more expensive and more inconvenient until the infrastructure is built and emerging technology makes it more efficient - I could be wrong but I reckon the city folk have done their due diligence and this won't happen any time soon, so they've sunk their billions into it and will enjoy the profits as the prices rise.
I've been looking at companies doing material recovery/recycling. There's quite a lot going on in the area around efficient recycling of EVs. If you can get the 100gm of dysprosium back out, you're on a winner.Potter wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 2:10 pm Follow the money.
People are investing in commodity ETFs in anticipation of rising prices, I've just thrown a decent chunk into a base metals one and another into a transition components one, these funds are created on the basis that the underlying assets (like copper, lithium, switching raw materials, etc) are going to rise in value.
(99% of global annual production comes from China so it's not just a cost of recovery issue).Are they works own charge points or someone else’s ? Do they charge you for the electric ? Who maintains them ? What size are they ?asmethurst99 wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:06 pm Two of the four charging posts at work have been out of action for 4 weeks now - no news on when they will be fixed.
And then die of whatever happens to be the next pandemic.Couchy wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 2:32 pmPeople that can’t afford the new autonomous transport will move back to big cities in droves.
They are in our staff car park - we got electric cars for some teams 2 years ago (physio/resp nurse outreach and our specialist resp team) Quite a few staff have electric hybrid vehicles as well so they are for everyone with an electric car not just the hospital vehiclesCouchy wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 4:16 pmAre they works own charge points or someone else’s ? Do they charge you for the electric ? Who maintains them ? What size are they ?asmethurst99 wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:06 pm Two of the four charging posts at work have been out of action for 4 weeks now - no news on when they will be fixed.
Well, that's quite tidy.Kneerly Down wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 5:32 pmAnd then die of whatever happens to be the next pandemic.Couchy wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 2:32 pmPeople that can’t afford the new autonomous transport will move back to big cities in droves.
I like EV’sMr. Dazzle wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 6:17 pm Sounds more like a rant against the generic ineptitude of public/private partnerships than anything against EVs in particular
I think we get a “special rate” on the electricity but don’t quote me.asmethurst99 wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 5:45 pmThey are in our staff car park - we got electric cars for some teams 2 years ago (physio/resp nurse outreach and our specialist resp team) Quite a few staff have electric hybrid vehicles as well so they are for everyone with an electric car not just the hospital vehiclesCouchy wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 4:16 pmAre they works own charge points or someone else’s ? Do they charge you for the electric ? Who maintains them ? What size are they ?asmethurst99 wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:06 pm Two of the four charging posts at work have been out of action for 4 weeks now - no news on when they will be fixed.
Normal slow charge.
They are/were branded BP but I think a different company looks after them.
One of the problems is they sometimes can’t connect as they are 2G and there’s a blind spot.
The problem according to the estates manager is getting someone to own the problem - hardware maintenance is sub contracted out and no matter what we say it takes ages for anything to be fixed.The telephone helpline is useless.
asmethurst99 wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 6:32 pm
I think we get a “special rate” on the electricity but don’t quote me.
We install a lot for BP. Problem is most places after the guarantee period won’t take up a maintenance contract which may be what’s happened in your case especially if they are local authority or NHS.asmethurst99 wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 5:45 pmThey are in our staff car park - we got electric cars for some teams 2 years ago (physio/resp nurse outreach and our specialist resp team) Quite a few staff have electric hybrid vehicles as well so they are for everyone with an electric car not just the hospital vehiclesCouchy wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 4:16 pmAre they works own charge points or someone else’s ? Do they charge you for the electric ? Who maintains them ? What size are they ?asmethurst99 wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:06 pm Two of the four charging posts at work have been out of action for 4 weeks now - no news on when they will be fixed.
Normal slow charge.
They are/were branded BP but I think a different company looks after them.
One of the problems is they sometimes can’t connect as they are 2G and there’s a blind spot.
The problem according to the estates manager is getting someone to own the problem - hardware maintenance is sub contracted out and no matter what we say it takes ages for anything to be fixed.The telephone helpline is useless.
This sounds familiar from previous problems according to the estates manager (I checked this Morning they are badged BP pulse)Couchy wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:30 pmWe install a lot for BP. Problem is most places after the guarantee period won’t take up a maintenance contract which may be what’s happened in your case especially if they are local authority or NHS.asmethurst99 wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 5:45 pmThey are in our staff car park - we got electric cars for some teams 2 years ago (physio/resp nurse outreach and our specialist resp team) Quite a few staff have electric hybrid vehicles as well so they are for everyone with an electric car not just the hospital vehiclesCouchy wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 4:16 pm
Are they works own charge points or someone else’s ? Do they charge you for the electric ? Who maintains them ? What size are they ?
Normal slow charge.
They are/were branded BP but I think a different company looks after them.
One of the problems is they sometimes can’t connect as they are 2G and there’s a blind spot.
The problem according to the estates manager is getting someone to own the problem - hardware maintenance is sub contracted out and no matter what we say it takes ages for anything to be fixed.The telephone helpline is useless.
I have nowhere to plug one in.Potter wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 4:54 amWhy don't you have one?
You've just bought a new car, why not an EV?
/end of thread...MyLittleStudPony wrote: Sun Jan 01, 2023 11:05 pmI have nowhere to plug one in.Potter wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 4:54 amWhy don't you have one?
You've just bought a new car, why not an EV?
100% the end. Where they are most practical (In the city) most folk cant have the chargers for them as its a long cable down tenement stair cases then across a pavement to get to the car. I was renting a tenement flat in Edinburgh around 98/99 where we had 20 houses in the stairwell. That is a lot of cables running out into the streets of the folk can afford it all in the first place.Taipan wrote: Mon Jan 02, 2023 1:57 am/end of thread...MyLittleStudPony wrote: Sun Jan 01, 2023 11:05 pmI have nowhere to plug one in.Potter wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 4:54 am
Why don't you have one?
You've just bought a new car, why not an EV?