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Re: Today I Have Been Mainly Being A Roofer.
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:02 pm
by DefTrap
Yorick wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:47 pm
Gonna give roof a day to dry out.
The lip on the outside wall wasn't high enough so in big rains, it overflowed onto outside wall. Making it filthy, but more importantly, damp came into garage.
I put on 25mm batons, but still went over.
So been advised to use these 20mm x 25mm plastic angles as well.
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What's the diameter of that outlet and how many of them are there?
Re: Today I Have Been Mainly Being A Roofer.
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 3:28 pm
by Yorick
DefTrap wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:02 pm
Yorick wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:47 pm
Gonna give roof a day to dry out.
The lip on the outside wall wasn't high enough so in big rains, it overflowed onto outside wall. Making it filthy, but more importantly, damp came into garage.
I put on 25mm batons, but still went over.
So been advised to use these 20mm x 25mm plastic angles as well.
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What's the diameter of that outlet and how many of them are there?
That one's about 30mm. Other 2 are about 20mm.
Re: Today I Have Been Mainly Being A Roofer.
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 3:39 pm
by DefTrap
Yorick wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 3:28 pm
That one's about 30mm. Other 2 are about 20mm.
I'm no expert but seems small given the outlet size of "normal" downpipes. But it might explain why it backs up so much? And possibly blocks relatively easily? Roof coverings are much more likely to show signs of failure if you've effectively got a lake up there. (Guess who's also recently had roof problems?
)
Re: Today I Have Been Mainly Being A Roofer.
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 3:40 pm
by Yorick
Ran out, 3 short. Forgot the pergola is 11m. Garage is only 8m, which I doubled
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Re: Today I Have Been Mainly Being A Roofer.
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 3:48 pm
by Yorick
DefTrap wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 3:39 pm
Yorick wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 3:28 pm
That one's about 30mm. Other 2 are about 20mm.
I'm no expert but seems small given the outlet size of "normal" downpipes. But it might explain why it backs up so much? And possibly blocks relatively easily? Roof coverings are much more likely to show signs of failure if you've effectively got a lake up there. (Guess who's also recently had roof problems?
)
Can't change the outlets, but they're clear on the drop, so no blockages.
The covering has suffered a bit where the water dregs linger. Gonna give it a good coating.
Re: Today I Have Been Mainly Being A Roofer.
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:01 am
by Yorick
Some of the seams need flattening/trimming before I start.
And need to get the trusty Makita 18v sander on the gulley.
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Re: Today I Have Been Mainly Being A Roofer.
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:21 pm
by Yorick
Re: Today I Have Been Mainly Being A Roofer.
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:24 pm
by Yorick
I'm shit scared of heights and freeze when getting onto ladders. So I've tied it off to the roof light
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Re: Today I Have Been Mainly Being A Roofer.
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:24 pm
by Yorick
And a gratuitous photo of the garden from up there.
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Re: Today I Have Been Mainly Being A Roofer.
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 4:57 pm
by Cousin Jack
Yorick wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:24 pm
I'm shit scared of heights and freeze when getting onto ladders. So I've tied it off to the roof light
I'm happy as Larry on a ladder, but tieing off the top in windy weather is common sense. You can keep your mancard, and can sport an elf'n safety
star too.
Re: Today I Have Been Mainly Being A Roofer.
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:11 pm
by Count Steer
DefTrap wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 3:39 pm
Yorick wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 3:28 pm
That one's about 30mm. Other 2 are about 20mm.
I'm no expert but seems small given the outlet size of "normal" downpipes. But it might explain why it backs up so much? And possibly blocks relatively easily? Roof coverings are much more likely to show signs of failure if you've effectively got a lake up there. (Guess who's also recently had roof problems?
)
I had an 'architects dream' house (in the UK). I didn't have it built, I just viewed it and went 'oooh' (without thinking) when I saw it. Open plan, single storey, 'flat' roof, lots of glass, 'minimum maintenance'. The roof drains were in the middle of the 'flat' roof, no gutters and the place was surrounded by trees.
Guess what happened next....?
Re: Today I Have Been Mainly Being A Roofer.
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:20 pm
by DefTrap
Count Steer wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:11 pm
I had an 'architects dream' house (in the UK). I didn't have it built, I just viewed it and went 'oooh' (without thinking) when I saw it. Open plan, single storey, 'flat' roof, lots of glass, 'minimum maintenance'. The roof drains were in the middle of the 'flat' roof, no gutters and the place was surrounded by trees.
Guess what happened next....?
Lolz! The roofs where we are tend to be relatively low-pitched (as in a reasonably competent humanoid with limited acrobat skills can wander about on them quite happily) but it does mean that they are slightly more opportunities for the crap that accumulates on roofs, and in gutters, to not get washed off and just clog up between the tiles - often the rain just doesn't run off quickly enough. The design isn't "totally waterproof" under all conditions but as long as it is generally moving down and not pooling then it works just fine. Far worse with "flat" roofs obviously, they pretty much have to be totally watertight and the rain really shouldn't be allowed to linger.
Re: Today I Have Been Mainly Being A Roofer.
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:25 pm
by Rockburner
That Sikaflex stuff is apparantly the next best thing to welding. Allegedly the solar panel on my van was stuck down with "just" Sikaflex and that was considered overkill for holding it down.
Re: Today I Have Been Mainly Being A Roofer.
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:38 pm
by Count Steer
DefTrap wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:20 pm
Count Steer wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:11 pm
I had an 'architects dream' house (in the UK). I didn't have it built, I just viewed it and went 'oooh' (without thinking) when I saw it. Open plan, single storey, 'flat' roof, lots of glass, 'minimum maintenance'. The roof drains were in the middle of the 'flat' roof, no gutters and the place was surrounded by trees.
Guess what happened next....?
Lolz! The roofs where we are tend to be relatively low-pitched (as in a reasonably competent humanoid with limited acrobat skills can wander about on them quite happily) but it does mean that they are slightly more opportunities for the crap that accumulates on roofs, and in gutters, to not get washed off and just clog up between the tiles - often the rain just doesn't run off quickly enough. The design isn't "totally waterproof" under all conditions but as long as it is generally moving down and not pooling then it works just fine. Far worse with "flat" roofs obviously, they pretty much have to be totally watertight and the rain really shouldn't be allowed to linger.
We ended up being lucky...in a way. The bloke that had it built downsized and had it built in his 'garden' when his wife died. He lived in it for a few years then we did a swap, initiated by his new lady love. The house next door was built over his old swimming pool.
But...he built it in a very nice bit of land, in a desirable area. So, after 12 years, we got a proper architect, designed 2 'proper' houses, spent 5 years getting planning permission, and sold up - with planning permission.
Moved out after 17 years.
Loved the place. Until it rained in autumn.
Re: Today I Have Been Mainly Being A Roofer.
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:39 am
by Yorick
Not gonna get much done in next few days. Hot sunny days forecast. Not ideal sat on a white roof.
I'm glad coz I ache like fuck after 2 hard enduro days.
I don't expect much sympathy off you 'orrible lot
Re: Today I Have Been Mainly Being A Roofer.
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:16 pm
by Cousin Jack
Yorick wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:39 am
Not gonna get much done in next few days. Hot sunny days forecast. Not ideal sat on a white roof.
I'm glad coz I ache like fuck after 2 hard enduro days.
I don't expect much sympathy off you 'orrible lot
You ain't getting it
Re: Today I Have Been Mainly Being A Roofer.
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 8:10 pm
by DefTrap
Srsly though, the first few hours of daylight in the middle of winter isn't that blistering surely?
Bloody lazy expats!
Re: Today I Have Been Mainly Being A Roofer.
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 8:15 pm
by Yorick
DefTrap wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 8:10 pm
Srsly though, the first few hours of daylight in the middle of winter isn't that blistering surely?
Bloody lazy expats!
It was 25c at 10. But the sun is blinding on a white roof.
And was aching like buggery so looking for an excuse
Re: Today I Have Been Mainly Being A Roofer.
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:01 pm
by mangocrazy
Yorick wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 8:15 pm
DefTrap wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 8:10 pm
Srsly though, the first few hours of daylight in the middle of winter isn't that blistering surely?
Bloody lazy expats!
It was 25c at 10. But the sun is blinding on a white roof.
And was aching like buggery so looking for an excuse
About 15 years ago we put a new roof on one side of the gaff in France. Instead of using roofing felt (as was done in the UK) we chose a reflective roof lining to combat the heat from the sun. What we hadn't reckoned with was the blinding reflection from the lining and the amount of heat it reflected when we were working near it. Thankfully most of the weather was unseasonably cloudy and cool while we were doing it, otherwise we'd have been in real trouble.
This was the stuff we were using instead of felt:
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And this was the roof with the roofing sheets on top of the reflective lining:
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Re: Today I Have Been Mainly Being A Roofer.
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 9:24 am
by Yorick
Cooler hazy day forecast so early start.
Had to cut 50 strips of the mesh stuffs.
Achey fingers now
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