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Re: Current Affairs/Politics/etc.... Comeback or keep it binned ?

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:27 am
by Brickie
I see it as quite simple: if you don't like it - don't go there. I like that the rest of the site is pretty civilised and if people feel the need to be horrible then fine, that's the place to go. Nobody actually gets hurt.....

Re: Current Affairs/Politics/etc.... Comeback or keep it binned ?

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:32 am
by Cousin Jack
I used to frequent a (Septic) bike forum where all discussion on politics, religion, and anything else even vaguely controversial was banned. It was boring, you got to know which names were knowledgeable about bikes, but virtually nothing else about them. This place at least lets you form a mental picture of people, warts and all.

I like discussion on politics and stuff. I have learned a lot from other people's posts, and have even been known to change my views, at least a bit. Robust debate doesn't really bother me, even the occasional snipe in another thread is ok, but full scale trolling is not. And anyone looking to take arguments into RL needs locking up rather than just banning.

Re: Current Affairs/Politics/etc.... Comeback or keep it binned ?

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:40 am
by weeksy
Screwdriver wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:31 am
weeksy wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:15 am
Screwdriver wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:08 am
OTOH, it's fairly obvious the forum has died a death since removing the ability to discuss important matters.
Well you're actually wrong about that in terms of posts, reads, views etc... There's been slightly more since closing it, not less.

You may see that differently but the figures are there
Yes I do find that difficult to believe as a user but clearly, the numbers don't lie.

Depending on how one might precisely define "slightly more".
Do i need to share graphs to prove it ?

Re: Current Affairs/Politics/etc.... Comeback or keep it binned ?

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:46 am
by Mr Moofo
weeksy wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:40 am
Screwdriver wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:31 am
weeksy wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:15 am

Well you're actually wrong about that in terms of posts, reads, views etc... There's been slightly more since closing it, not less.

You may see that differently but the figures are there
Yes I do find that difficult to believe as a user but clearly, the numbers don't lie.

Depending on how one might precisely define "slightly more".
Do i need to share graphs to prove it ?
Graphs and facts are merely a Democratic plot funded by the lizards that roam amongst us

Re: Current Affairs/Politics/etc.... Comeback or keep it binned ?

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:48 am
by Pirahna
If it is brought back there is one user who needs a permanent ban from the forum, and it's not Screwdriver

Re: Current Affairs/Politics/etc.... Comeback or keep it binned ?

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:49 am
by KungFooBob
Pirahna wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:48 am If it is brought back there is one user who needs a permanent ban from the forum, and it's not Screwdriver
Mr Dazzle!

Re: Current Affairs/Politics/etc.... Comeback or keep it binned ?

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:52 am
by weeksy
Pirahna wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:48 am If it is brought back there is one user who needs a permanent ban from the forum, and it's not Screwdriver
Can't ban myself mate... it makes Admin tasks really tough.

Re: Current Affairs/Politics/etc.... Comeback or keep it binned ?

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:54 am
by Skub
KungFooBob wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:49 am
Pirahna wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:48 am If it is brought back there is one user who needs a permanent ban from the forum, and it's not Screwdriver
Mr Dazzle!
I agree wholeheartedly. Actually knowing stuff is very annoying and constantly gets in the way of proper opinion. Ban the bastard post haste. :thumbup:

Re: Current Affairs/Politics/etc.... Comeback or keep it binned ?

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:56 am
by weeksy
Screwdriver wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:31 am Depending on how one might precisely define "slightly more".
TBF we're talking 2-3% different between pre-closure and it being shutdown.

It's not a lot either way i'll admit.

Personally though i feel when politics was closed the forum was a much nicer place to be.

Sadly for me, the vote was cast by the members and it's re-opened.... which i completely disagree with (Just for the record)

Re: Current Affairs/Politics/etc.... Comeback or keep it binned ?

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:21 am
by Yorick
What would be cool is a "complain" button. If you don't like an angry reply, just press the button. When 5 members do it, the reply is deleted automatically.

The members self moderate.

Re: Current Affairs/Politics/etc.... Comeback or keep it binned ?

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:24 am
by weeksy
Yorick wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:21 am What would be cool is a "complain" button. If you don't like an angry reply, just press the button. When 5 members do it, the reply is deleted automatically.

The members self moderate.
Doesn't exist within the forum software.

There is of course the report button, which is very very rarely used by people.

Re: Current Affairs/Politics/etc.... Comeback or keep it binned ?

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:26 am
by Mr Moofo
weeksy wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:24 am
Yorick wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:21 am What would be cool is a "complain" button. If you don't like an angry reply, just press the button. When 5 members do it, the reply is deleted automatically.

The members self moderate.
Doesn't exist within the forum software.

There is of course the report button, which is very very rarely used by people.
I have never understood why people just don't read stuff they don't like

Re: Current Affairs/Politics/etc.... Comeback or keep it binned ?

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:31 am
by Docca
Bring it back so we can out all the right wing losers


😀

Re: Current Affairs/Politics/etc.... Comeback or keep it binned ?

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:35 am
by gremlin
Mr Moofo wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:26 am
weeksy wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:24 am
Yorick wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:21 am What would be cool is a "complain" button. If you don't like an angry reply, just press the button. When 5 members do it, the reply is deleted automatically.

The members self moderate.
Doesn't exist within the forum software.

There is of course the report button, which is very very rarely used by people.
I have never understood why people just don't read stuff they don't like
How would you know you don't like it without reading it first? And by then it's too late and sensibilities will be bruised. :o

Re: Current Affairs/Politics/etc.... Comeback or keep it binned ?

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:35 am
by gremlin
Mr Moofo wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:46 am
weeksy wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:40 am
Screwdriver wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:31 am

Yes I do find that difficult to believe as a user but clearly, the numbers don't lie.

Depending on how one might precisely define "slightly more".
Do i need to share graphs to prove it ?
Graphs and facts are merely a Democratic plot funded by the lizards that roam amongst us
Graphs? Surely lizards would use scales.

Re: Current Affairs/Politics/etc.... Comeback or keep it binned ?

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:37 am
by Count Steer
weeksy wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:24 am
Yorick wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:21 am What would be cool is a "complain" button. If you don't like an angry reply, just press the button. When 5 members do it, the reply is deleted automatically.

The members self moderate.
Doesn't exist within the forum software.

There is of course the report button, which is very very rarely used by people.
And when it is used it's usually by the same handful* of people. (Ignoring the 'soz, posted in the wrong thread' reports).

* ie five or less.

Re: Current Affairs/Politics/etc.... Comeback or keep it binned ?

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:37 am
by Mr Moofo
gremlin wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:35 am
Mr Moofo wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:46 am
weeksy wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:40 am

Do i need to share graphs to prove it ?
Graphs and facts are merely a Democratic plot funded by the lizards that roam amongst us
Graphs? Surely lizards would use scales.
Touche!

Re: Current Affairs/Politics/etc.... Comeback or keep it binned ?

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:38 am
by weeksy
Count Steer wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:37 am
weeksy wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:24 am
Yorick wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:21 am What would be cool is a "complain" button. If you don't like an angry reply, just press the button. When 5 members do it, the reply is deleted automatically.

The members self moderate.
Doesn't exist within the forum software.

There is of course the report button, which is very very rarely used by people.
And when it is used it's usually by the same handful* of people. (Ignoring the 'soz, posted in the wrong thread' reports).

* ie five or less.
Which funnily enough, are mostly the same people who cause most of the issues :D

Re: Current Affairs/Politics/etc.... Comeback or keep it binned ?

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:38 am
by Yorick
weeksy wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:24 am
Yorick wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:21 am What would be cool is a "complain" button. If you don't like an angry reply, just press the button. When 5 members do it, the reply is deleted automatically.

The members self moderate.
Doesn't exist within the forum software.

There is of course the report button, which is very very rarely used by people.
Yeah, I know. It was tongue in cheek, but a good idea in theory.

Re: Current Affairs/Politics/etc.... Comeback or keep it binned ?

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:41 am
by DefTrap
weeksy wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:38 am Which funnily enough, are mostly the same people who cause most of the issues :D
They're the ones who know the rules very well and struggle to stay just inside them.