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Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:16 am
by Mr. Dazzle
JamJar wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:03 amAll modern cars would be disabled by an EMP.
Plus the often overlooked detail that EMPs are generally associated with nuclear bombs. If someone is deliberately setting those off in your area you've probably got bigger issues.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:31 am
by Noggin
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:56 am
In all seriousness electric/hybrid vehciles should be loads better on snow. They don't need a clutch (the electric motor will happily spin at 1rpm, it doesn't have a minimum speed like a conventional engine) and they are much easier to control because there are far fewer moving parts. Therefore you can have as much torque as like/don't like at whatever speed you want.
That's what I figured after talking about the auto vans. Electric should be easier - unless you have a lead foot!! LOL LOL
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:33 am
by Mr. Dazzle
I think some of them have a 'snow creep' mode where you set a speed (say 5mph) and it doesn't matter how lead your foot is, it will just pull off and drive up to that speed.
My parents conventional auto car already has something very similar.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:36 am
by Noggin
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:33 am
I think some of them have a 'snow creep' mode where you set a speed (say 5mph) and it doesn't matter how lead your foot is, it will just pull off and drive up to that speed.
My parents conventional auto car already has something very similar.
I think that was what came out of the auto conversation - if you just let it do its thing, it will start off quite easily. And also all the work cars/vans have really good snow tyres, so you do have to be pretty horrible to it (and have a full load) to not get moving!!
Would love to try and electric on snow
Must go talk to the car park people about electric points!!
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:51 pm
by ZRX61
JamJar wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:03 am
ZRX61 wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:02 am
Still waiting for someone to explain what happens when we go all electric & some bugger sets off an EMP weapon... altho tbf, all it takes to bring everything to halt where I live is for the weather to get a bit blowy & they turn off the power.
All modern cars would be disabled by an EMP.
Yes, but where I live they have banned CNG etc in new construction, all homes must also be 100% electric. When I said "all electric" that's what I was referring to. We're already at the stage where we don't have the generating capability to power the entire State during the Summer leading to rolling brown-outs.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:57 pm
by cheb
What do you mean by 'brown out'?
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:59 pm
by Le_Fromage_Grande
cheb wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:57 pm
What do you mean by 'brown out'?
Sit on the loo and squeeze
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:13 pm
by slowsider
cheb wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:57 pm
What do you mean by 'brown out'?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brownou ... %20reduces.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:35 pm
by cheb
I know what I mean as a brown out, I'd like to know what ZRX means by brown out.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:33 pm
by Wossname
I didn't know what an EMP attack is, or a CNG, and now "brownout". ZRX - the master of mystery....
Every day is an acronymfest here.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:59 pm
by Skub
Wossname wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:33 pm
I didn't know what an EMP attack is, or a CNG, and now "brownout". ZRX - the master of mystery....
Every day is an acronymfest here.
IRDGAS.

Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:31 pm
by cheb
Wossname wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:33 pm
I didn't know what an EMP attack is, or a CNG, and now "brownout". ZRX - the master of mystery....
Every day is an acronymfest here.
EMP=electromagnetic pulse.
CNG=compressed natural gas
ZRX= A Kawasaki motorcycle.
Brown out=, to me anyway, when the voltage of an electrical supply drops significantly enough that incandescent bulbs dim from a bright near white to a yellowish one. AIUI it can also damage electrical devices so it's to be avoided, hence brown out's being rare in the UK AFAIK. Again AIUI there should be devices in the mains supply system that detect the voltage drop and cut the supply before damage occurs.
I'm merely wondering if the Americans describe the above as a brown out, or it's some other phenomena, possibly a deliberate act, rather than accidental.
Bear in mind I'm merely an interested amateur and have had no formal training. I do live on an island that has it's own power station and you could tell when they were swapping generators because the lights would go very bright, then dim, and then back to normal as the supply voltage fluctuated and was corrected.
How the electrical grid works is an interesting subject if you're a boring as I am.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:58 pm
by Mr. Dazzle
Even if you had a had a gas powered house it wouldn't save you in an EMP. Not unless you've got boilers and thermostats etc. without electronic control boards...and they stopped putting those in houses back when ZRXs were modern
But again, I think we're overlooking the larger issues with the EMP thing

Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:23 pm
by Wossname
@Cheb - yep, thanks - I know about ZRXs, googled the others and interpreted brownout as a not quite blackout. Not far off, TBF. (to be fur).
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:48 am
by ZRX61
cheb wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:57 pm
What do you mean by 'brown out'?
They turn off the power in some areas for a while (usually 3-5 hours), then turn it back on & turn it off somewhere else rinse & repeat.
They've already managed to kill a few people who were hooked up to medical machinery.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:24 am
by cheb
Thanks, not a brown out as I understand it then. What's that comment about separated by a common language?
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:29 am
by Horse
In the UK a 'power cut'?
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:10 am
by cheb
That's the one, like we had in the 1970s.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:14 am
by cheb
Rather worryingly my wife is thinking about getting an electric car. Being as she can run out of fuel in a diesel I should buy a warm coat, a generator and a book.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:25 am
by Horse
FWIW gas boilers cannot be installed in new build homes from 2025 in the UK.