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Re: self driving vehicle on UK motorways in 2023
Posted: Tue May 07, 2024 9:05 am
by The Spin Doctor
But the technology is mature enough to let loose on the roads!
Re: self driving vehicle on UK motorways in 2023
Posted: Tue May 07, 2024 9:35 am
by Noggin
cheb wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 6:23 pm
Just watched it. To me it's still 'Coffee is hot, moron.' What more is there? There's at least 701 morons in the US? Not gripping a very hot cup between your thighs is one of those things you should know by the time you are considered an adult. I drink tea, serve me tea at an immediately drinkable temperature and you'll get a raised eyebrow and pointed look.
I reminded of a comment made about someone who'd been rescued off a mountain whilst woefully unprepared for the weather and was banging on about it not being their fault. 'If I did something that stupid I'd keep quiet about it.'
But TBF, selling coffee that had caused third degree burns to 700+ customers prior to this and not reducing the sale temperature enough to prevent this is a bit stupid of the company isn't it??
But I do agree with you on the mountain rescue comment!!
Re: self driving vehicle on UK motorways in 2023
Posted: Tue May 07, 2024 10:29 am
by cheb
How hot was the 'too hot for 700 customers'? Too hot to drink immediately maybe? Not the exact same temperature they wanted toddler stylee? What percentage of total customers is 700? Vanishly small I suspect.
The local hospital has to do a complete formal complaint procedure as a relative decided the morgue viewing area was "Too cold".
Still, you can never bee too careful, if it save one life, think of the children etc.
Re: self driving vehicle on UK motorways in 2023
Posted: Tue May 07, 2024 12:25 pm
by Horse
cheb wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 10:29 am
How hot was the 'too hot for 700 customers'?
Same answer as to your question on the previous page:
700+ previous instances of customers being injured, for which they had paid out massive compensation
She suffered third degree burns, required plastic surgery
Re: self driving vehicle on UK motorways in 2023
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:12 am
by Felix
Bet this guy was glad the car was not on a motorway
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/c70e2g09ng9o
Re: self driving vehicle on UK motorways in 2023
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 9:55 am
by Horse
Eek
And the guy probably didn't want to hear this from the Waymo control person:
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Re: self driving vehicle on UK motorways in 2023
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 11:17 am
by The Spin Doctor
Did you catch the story about the Waymo that got confused at a construction zone, went against traffic on the wrong side of the road, then 'panicked' and ran a red light when the cop car turned on its lights? It pulled up in a parking lot and stopped, and there's a video of the cop cautiously approaching down the side of the car, looking in the wound-down window to find...
...no-one.
He wrote in his report "unable to issue citation to computer"!
Re: self driving vehicle on UK motorways in 2023
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:26 pm
by Cousin Jack
If you 'train' AI on live driver behaviour you should expect automated vehicles to do stupid stuff.
Re: self driving vehicle on UK motorways in 2023
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 8:59 pm
by Horse
https://electrek.co/2025/03/16/tesla-au ... idar-test/
Tesla Autopilot drove into Wile E. Coyote-style fake road wall in the middle of the road in a camera versus lidar test.
While most companies developing self-driving technologies have been using a mix of sensors (cameras, radar, lidar, and ultrasonic), Tesla insists on only using cameras.
The automaker removed radars from its vehicle lineup and even deactivated radars already installed in existing vehicles.
Re: self driving vehicle on UK motorways in 2023
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 9:17 pm
by Cousin Jack
The thing I find worrying is that the salesman was convinced the wife's new Jazz was capable of self driving. It can probably manage lane keeping and intelligent cruise on a Mway as long as the lane markings are clear, but he was completely sold on the idea that all the problems except legislation had been solved. Now I don't believe him and if I had been interested I could have tied him in knots (he was a very very new salesman with 6 weeks experience of selling cars) but sooner or later someone will, and may not survive the attempt.
Re: self driving vehicle on UK motorways in 2023
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2025 3:00 pm
by The Spin Doctor
The Wile E. Coyote fake road is a splendid bit of lateral thinking!
The gulf between the holy grail of self-driving and the reality is still pretty wide outside of carefully controlled conditions.
Re: self driving vehicle on UK motorways in 2023
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:03 pm
by Scootabout
I didn't really need any more reasons not to buy a Tesla. But if I hadn't had any at all, that would be enough.
Re: self driving vehicle on UK motorways in 2023
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:06 pm
by Horse
It's not quite so clear-cut. Indeed, it gets murky ...
Quite a long read, but even if it doesn't trash the YouTube video, it raises a lot of questions.
https://www.notateslaapp.com/news/2606/ ... yote-video
Re: self driving vehicle on UK motorways in 2023
Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 9:07 am
by Horse
Re: self driving vehicle on UK motorways in 2023
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2025 10:12 am
by Horse
Tesla Robotaxi started at the weekend.
Limited service, a few vehicles, invited passengers, safety driver.
Uh-oh ...
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/06/23/tes ... ncern.html
In the videos shared widely online, one Tesla robotaxi was spotted traveling the wrong way down a road, and another was shown braking hard in the middle of traffic, responding to "stationary police vehicles outside its driving path," among several other examples.
A spokesperson for NHTSA said in an e-mail that the agency "is aware of the referenced incidents and is in contact with the manufacturer to gather additional information."
Re: self driving vehicle on UK motorways in 2023
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2025 10:18 am
by iansoady
What could possibly go wrong.....
Re: self driving vehicle on UK motorways in 2023
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:29 am
by Cousin Jack
iansoady wrote: Tue Jun 24, 2025 10:18 am
What could possibly go wrong.....
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/video ... ngNewsSerp
Re: self driving vehicle on UK motorways in 2023
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:38 pm
by Lutin
From the Beeb -
US safety regulators contact Tesla over erratic robotaxis
The U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) has contacted Tesla after footage shared on social media appeared to show its newly-launched driverless cars breaking traffic laws.
The firm's long-awaited robotaxis - which boss Elon Musk says are central to Tesla's future - were tried out on public roads for the first time in Austin, Texas, on Sunday.
Videos posted online seem to show instances where the vehicles, which had a safety driver in the passenger seat, drive erratically.
In a statement, the NHTSA said it was "aware of the referenced incidents and is in contact with the manufacturer to gather additional information."
The BBC has contacted Tesla for comment.
Re: self driving vehicle on UK motorways in 2023
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:40 pm
by Count Steer
Horse wrote: Tue Jun 24, 2025 10:12 am
Tesla Robotaxi started at the weekend.
Limited service, a few vehicles,
invited passengers, safety driver.
Uh-oh ...
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/06/23/tes ... ncern.html
In the videos shared widely online, one Tesla robotaxi was spotted traveling the wrong way down a road, and another was shown braking hard in the middle of traffic, responding to "stationary police vehicles outside its driving path," among several other examples.
A spokesperson for NHTSA said in an e-mail that the agency "is aware of the referenced incidents and is in contact with the manufacturer to gather additional information."
Invited passengers?
Sorry, I'll be washing my hair on that, err, year.
Re: self driving vehicle on UK motorways in 2023
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:10 pm
by Horse
Count Steer wrote: Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:40 pm
Horse wrote: Tue Jun 24, 2025 10:12 am
Tesla Robotaxi started at the weekend.
Limited service, a few vehicles,
invited passengers, safety driver.
Uh-oh ...
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/06/23/tes ... ncern.html
In the videos shared widely online, one Tesla robotaxi was spotted traveling the wrong way down a road, and another was shown braking hard in the middle of traffic, responding to "stationary police vehicles outside its driving path," among several other examples.
A spokesperson for NHTSA said in an e-mail that the agency "is aware of the referenced incidents and is in contact with the manufacturer to gather additional information."
Invited passengers?
Sorry, I'll be washing my hair on that, err, year.
And not only do they have safety staff, ready to press the big red STOP button (well, 'red' based on the one automated car I've looked around, presuming they're similar), it turns out some have a chase car with a remote operator on board.