JamJar wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:46 am
Does it matter when the car manufacturers warranty the batteries for 8 years?
I guess not but I didn't know they warranty batteries for 8 years. Is there a lot of small print on the warranty, like 'Repeated fast charging invalidates this Warranty!' ?
Cousin Jack wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:21 amAs I understand it they have fans (which do make some noise) and need planning permission
From 1 December 2011 the installation of an air source heat pump on domestic premises is considered to be permitted development, not needing an application for planning permission, provided ALL the limits and conditions listed below are met.
JamJar wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:46 am
Does it matter when the car manufacturers warranty the batteries for 8 years?
I guess not but I didn't know they warranty batteries for 8 years. Is there a lot of small print on the warranty, like 'Repeated fast charging invalidates this Warranty!' ?
Tesla UK:
The Battery and Drive Unit in your vehicle are covered for a period of: Model S and Model X – 8 years or 150,000 miles, whichever comes first, with minimum 70% retention of Battery capacity over the warranty period.
Do any ic engined car manufacturers cover the engine under warranty for anything similar?
I think lots of the EV manufacturers do 'buy back' schemes on the battery, they take 'em out of the car and put them into UPS and grid storage systems etc.
I've not looked in too much detail TBH, but I know quite a few firms have novel financing for the car and battery seperately.
AFAIK charger standards are enforced by law to prevent that exact problem. They also mandate that new charging points have to offer 'at point' payment rather than making you sign up for an account.
Yambo wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:25 am
I guess not but I didn't know they warranty batteries for 8 years. Is there a lot of small print on the warranty, like 'Repeated fast charging invalidates this Warranty!' ?
I've been seriously looking at EV's and all the manufacturers have similar warranties and I don't think they are sneaky like that. Sadly my tastes for EV's are a bit rich as I am really liking the Porsche Taycan Turbo S
The Battery and Drive Unit in your vehicle are covered for a period of: Model S and Model X – 8 years or 150,000 miles, whichever comes first, with minimum 70% retention of Battery capacity over the warranty period.
Do any ic engined car manufacturers cover the engine under warranty for anything similar?
How it works for the used market, though ...
Although claiming on the warranty may not always be straightforward...
I'm not sure I get the range anxiety arguement anyway, most of the cars I have had a look at have a range in excess of 200 miles and I seldom do trips (even before the event) that are more than 200 miles
JamJar wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:49 pm
I'm not sure I get the range anxiety arguement anyway, most of the cars I have had a look at have a range in excess of 200 miles and I seldom do trips (even before the event) that are more than 200 miles
According to figures obtained from police forces in England and Wales by BBC Radio 5 Live, 13,000 catalytic converters were recorded stolen in 2019, compared with 2000 the year before. However, anecdotal evidence suggests that in reality, these numbers are far higher.
According to figures obtained from police forces in England and Wales by BBC Radio 5 Live, 13,000 catalytic converters were recorded stolen in 2019, compared with 2000 the year before. However, anecdotal evidence suggests that in reality, these numbers are far higher.
If someone nicks your CAT, you can still get home, even if its a touch noisy...
JamJar wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:49 pm
I'm not sure I get the range anxiety arguement anyway, most of the cars I have had a look at have a range in excess of 200 miles and I seldom do trips (even before the event) that are more than 200 miles
My battery knowledge is a bit out of date now but it was the case a few years back that fast charging and battery density were pretty much inversely proportional. So a battery that charges fast won't hold as much power for a given size.
It is right to treat these marketing claims with sceptisism but I did see significant changes when I was more interested, so I do believe improvements are being made but I always look for the hidden catch.
I've had an idea that could resolve the "occasionally I want a longer range" problem, you could hire a small trailer with an extra battery in it, thereby giving you increased range.
