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Re: Hmmm. Wonder If it works both ways ?

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:35 pm
by Mr. Dazzle
Paid up members only club where left wing views are not allowed?

That's what the Tory party is for innit? ;)

Re: Hmmm. Wonder If it works both ways ?

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:43 pm
by Horse
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:35 pm Paid up members only club where left wing views are not allowed?

That's what the Tory party is for innit? ;)
Gets worse if they don't want to be associated with the other two dozen or more sub-forums? ;)

Re: Hmmm. Wonder If it works both ways ?

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:27 pm
by demographic
cheb wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:48 am I'm going to start a rowing forum where any discussion of sculls, wherries, eights, pirogues and the like is only allowable if it's a full on heated discussion with shouting and death threats.
No skiffs? Elitist git.

Re: Hmmm. Wonder If it works both ways ?

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:30 pm
by cheb
How about a timed auto delete function, posts only remain on the thread for 30 minutes, maybe less, and no quoting is possible.

Re: Hmmm. Wonder If it works both ways ?

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:41 pm
by chillitt
I think it's just as well weeksy did the decent thing before any of us did. The only thing that hasn't been suggested is a Miserable User Hack... :lol:

Re: Hmmm. Wonder If it works both ways ?

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:42 pm
by weeksy
chillitt wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:41 pm I think it's just as well weeksy did the decent thing before any of us did. The only thing that hasn't been suggested is a Miserable User Hack... :lol:
doesn't exist.. but i struggle to think how i could make people on here more miserable !

Re: Hmmm. Wonder If it works both ways ?

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:56 pm
by irie
Nidge wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:56 am
ogri wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:32 am A bike forum with a index for Current Affairs / Politics / News discussion, and people in said index moaning about non bike stuff being discussed? :lol:
But it's not moaning about non-bike stuff per se. It's more that, axiomatically, a post like the original one here will descend into division, polarisation and ultimately insults. Frankly I think we were all tired of that in the old place(s).

I welcome the breadth of discussion and wouldn't want discussion to be only limited to bikes, but really did anyone not think that a thread like this would only go one way? Surely we can have a variety of discussion without provocative political/racial posts?
Personally, I don't have a problem with division and polarisation because I see that as being a reflection of society.

What I take issue with is personal insults.

Re: Hmmm. Wonder If it works both ways ?

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:11 pm
by chutzpah
Yambo wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:07 am Losing the argument? Not thought things through? Call the opposition a gammon, simple.
Or call someone a snowflake?

(on the subject of things working both ways. See, I've managed to sort of make a post on topic :lol: )

Re: Hmmm. Wonder If it works both ways ?

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:35 pm
by Horse
irie wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:56 pm What I take issue with is personal insults.
Unfortunately, some have 'banter' directed at them and feel insulted. Where's the point at which something becomes an insult? If it’s a technical or medical description applied accurately (for example, if the recipient actually does suffer muscle spasms, then 'you spastic' might a description rather than an insult, but is it insulting to use someone's physical appearance or restrictions in such a way?

Re: Hmmm. Wonder If it works both ways ?

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:07 pm
by Supermofo
I appreciate Weeksy setting up this forum, and think he's got a tough job getting the line right but so far I think he's done well. I come here for the bikes, but look over the other areas. Discussion is all good, but point scoring, baiting and he said, she said quoting etc rapidly leads to 800 pages of ming mong with nothing moving on beyond page one people just become further entrenched.

I get some people love it, but I find a lot of social media raging black/white arguing. We don't have to like everyone in our community, but it'd be nice to observe some social cohesion.

I dont know what the answer is but lets try and work with Weeksy to keep it a nice place to visit. Maybe treat it like a meet for a coffee and a chat rather than one of those 10 pint discussions

Re: Hmmm. Wonder If it works both ways ?

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:26 pm
by melons
Supermofo wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:07 pm I appreciate Weeksy setting up this forum, and think he's got a tough job getting the line right but so far I think he's done well. I come here for the bikes, but look over the other areas. Discussion is all good, but point scoring, baiting and he said, she said quoting etc rapidly leads to 800 pages of ming mong with nothing moving on beyond page one people just become further entrenched.

I get some people love it, but I find a lot of social media raging black/white arguing. We don't have to like everyone in our community, but it'd be nice to observe some social cohesion.

I dont know what the answer is but lets try and work with Weeksy to keep it a nice place to visit. Maybe treat it like a meet for a coffee and a chat rather than one of those 10 pint discussions
Guessing 'Beige' is a favourite colour here :hmmm: :hmmm: . Yoricks (This) thread hadn't fallen into any of the fault lines that have been cited prior to Weeksy's first intervention, it was at that stage just a civilised discussion :thumbdown:

Re: Hmmm. Wonder If it works both ways ?

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:33 pm
by weeksy
melons wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:26 pm
Supermofo wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:07 pm I appreciate Weeksy setting up this forum, and think he's got a tough job getting the line right but so far I think he's done well. I come here for the bikes, but look over the other areas. Discussion is all good, but point scoring, baiting and he said, she said quoting etc rapidly leads to 800 pages of ming mong with nothing moving on beyond page one people just become further entrenched.

I get some people love it, but I find a lot of social media raging black/white arguing. We don't have to like everyone in our community, but it'd be nice to observe some social cohesion.

I dont know what the answer is but lets try and work with Weeksy to keep it a nice place to visit. Maybe treat it like a meet for a coffee and a chat rather than one of those 10 pint discussions
Guessing 'Beige' is a favourite colour here :hmmm: :hmmm: . Yoricks (This) thread hadn't fallen into any of the fault lines that have been cited prior to Weeksy's first intervention, it was at that stage just a civilised discussion :thumbdown:
It was a thread that was never going to do anything more than cause arguments. Whether that's right or wrong to allow I don't know, but let's be honest, the thread was never going to enhance the forum, it was never going to make anyone look good or improve any relationships between members.

If you don't like the way the forum is being run, go find another, I'm quite frankly getting fed up with people bitching about it

Re: Hmmm. Wonder If it works both ways ?

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:42 pm
by melons
weeksy wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:33 pm
melons wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:26 pm
Supermofo wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:07 pm I appreciate Weeksy setting up this forum, and think he's got a tough job getting the line right but so far I think he's done well. I come here for the bikes, but look over the other areas. Discussion is all good, but point scoring, baiting and he said, she said quoting etc rapidly leads to 800 pages of ming mong with nothing moving on beyond page one people just become further entrenched.

I get some people love it, but I find a lot of social media raging black/white arguing. We don't have to like everyone in our community, but it'd be nice to observe some social cohesion.

I dont know what the answer is but lets try and work with Weeksy to keep it a nice place to visit. Maybe treat it like a meet for a coffee and a chat rather than one of those 10 pint discussions
Guessing 'Beige' is a favourite colour here :hmmm: :hmmm: . Yoricks (This) thread hadn't fallen into any of the fault lines that have been cited prior to Weeksy's first intervention, it was at that stage just a civilised discussion :thumbdown:
It was a thread that was never going to do anything more than cause arguments. Whether that's right or wrong to allow I don't know, but let's be honest, the thread was never going to enhance the forum, it was never going to make anyone look good or improve any relationships between members.

If you don't like the way the forum is being run, go find another, I'm quite frankly getting fed up with people bitching about it
Just noticed that Yorick has deleted his opening post on this thread whilst leaving the title & thread otherwise intact, that's a very bad forum loop hole imo. Also, fair enough, if you're going to second guess every comment or opinion on every thread and stifle debate, discussion and rob this forum of the educational excellence TRC provided with it's more liberal oversite, then it's not a place for me

Re: Hmmm. Wonder If it works both ways ?

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:51 pm
by weeksy
melons wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:42 pm
weeksy wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:33 pm
melons wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:26 pm

Guessing 'Beige' is a favourite colour here :hmmm: :hmmm: . Yoricks (This) thread hadn't fallen into any of the fault lines that have been cited prior to Weeksy's first intervention, it was at that stage just a civilised discussion :thumbdown:
It was a thread that was never going to do anything more than cause arguments. Whether that's right or wrong to allow I don't know, but let's be honest, the thread was never going to enhance the forum, it was never going to make anyone look good or improve any relationships between members.

If you don't like the way the forum is being run, go find another, I'm quite frankly getting fed up with people bitching about it
Just noticed that Yorick has deleted his opening post on this thread whilst leaving the title & thread otherwise intact, that's a very bad forum loop hole imo. Also, fair enough, if you're going to second guess every comment or opinion on every thread and stifle debate, discussion and rob this forum of the educational excellence TRC provided with it's more liberal oversite, then it's not a place for me
Sadly due to the way the forum deletes posts, if you do it incorrectly it leaves the rest of the topic in place, whereas on other forums it deletes the whole thread.

Whether you agree or not I'm not going to moderate everything not for a single second but people will have to learn that not everything is fair game. Am I out if order or not, time will tell.

Thread is locked but staying here with a shadow topic in the politics section. Not because I'm being heavy handed but because the OP has gone so it makes little sense now.

What you call educational excellence and liberal oversight, others called Ming Ming ping pong and arguing. People were abused, hounded, berated and had medical conditions turned against them. That's not excellence in any world in which I live

TRC closed for 1 reason, because the owner got sick of the arguments and the in fighting. Funnily enough, that was not in the other discussions other than political and clearly contentious subjects.

If this place isn't for you then that's fine. Take care and enjoy whatever you do instead. I've enjoyed your company over the years.