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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 3:56 pm Don't forget all them avocados they buy!

Person in front of me this morning at the till in M&S had 24 avocados!

(I had 2 ).

Taipan wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 3:49 pm We very rarely eat takeaways as I (mostly) don't like McDonald's etc.

Once a week maximum here*, the local Turk does a mean lamb kebab, chuck the pita away and I've got me a no fuss lamb salad.

*although since I'm back on the low carb train that's dropping off, as there aren't that many choices that'll work that don't come with rice or chips

gremlin wrote: A calorie is simply a unit of measurement of how much energy is given out when something is burned. The example of the biscuit and the boiled egg is a good one: same calories, different composition.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... tudy-finds

People lose more weight if they cook minimally processed food from scratch than if they eat ultra-processed and ready-made foods, according to the first study to establish a clear link between ultra-processed foods (UPFs) and weight.

Trial participants were given one of two diets with the same nutritional profile for eight weeks. One diet was made up of UPFs while the other comprised minimally processed foods.

When the first group ate breakfast bars and ready-made lasagne, for example, the second ate oats soaked in milk and natural yoghurt and homemade spaghetti bolognese.

At the end of the trial, participants on the second diet had lost twice as much weight as those on the first.

MrLongbeard wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 4:04 pm

Taipan wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 3:49 pm We very rarely eat takeaways as I (mostly) don't like McDonald's etc.

Once a week maximum here*, the local Turk does a mean lamb kebab, chuck the pita away and I've got me a no fuss lamb salad.

*although since I'm back on the low carb train that's dropping off, as there aren't that many choices that'll work that don't come with rice or chips

At home, we probably only have 5 - 6 a year and that's normally driven by when my kids stay over. WHen we're away in the campervan we eat out the most, and then i'll scoff fish n chips with alarming regularity!

My kids don't seem to have our takeaway avoidance though. My daughter's other half (Groundworker) seems to live on McDonalds for his lunch, but i think everyone he works with does. But even when at home in the evenings and weekends they'll indulge in takeaways, yet he is a talented BBQ cook and has a komodo joe thing and cooks up some amazing stuff and cooks all year round.

My Sons other half is Asian and she/they cook up some amazing food between them, but then resort to the, "I CBA to cook" thing and go out for Nandos or order something in?

Taipan wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 4:22 pm My daughter's other half (Groundworker) seems to live on McDonalds for his lunch, but i think everyone he works with does

To be fair I'd expect a ground worker to be doing sufficient graft to burn off a maccy's lunch, what when I was a lad new to the work force it was over to the pub every lunch for a chip baguette and a pint, happy days

MrLongbeard wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 4:30 pm

Taipan wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 4:22 pm My daughter's other half (Groundworker) seems to live on McDonalds for his lunch, but i think everyone he works with does

To be fair I'd expect a ground worker to be doing sufficient graft to burn off a maccy's lunch, what when I was a lad new to the work force it was over to the pub every lunch for a chip baguette and a pint, happy days

He's as wiry as a coat hanger, but frighteningly strong for his size! His salt intake of such foods worries me, but as a fat wine guzzler I don't feel best placed to criticise!

Anyone else hungry after reading this thread?
A couple of people at work are using Muntjaro (sp), they have lost weight but don’t necessarily look any better for it, I think it was too much too soon. My boss is one who researches stuff to death and he’s on it, he says all cravings have reduced, smoking vaping etc as a bonus and he doesn’t snack/graze like he used to.
If they did one just for 66 year old belly fat I’d try it
Mick.

MrLongbeard wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 12:40 pm

Count Steer wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 7:25 am Worth a read.

https://theconversation.com/five-things ... 0nutrition

From the comments

This is a relatively knew phenomenon. When I was at school in the ‘50s, '60s and '70s it was unusual to see obese people of whatever age

Probably true (before my time) but then you couldn't get shite like this https://www.independent.co.uk/life-styl ... 02278.html delivered to your door in under 30 minutes.
Never have I been so happy to not live within close distance to a chain takeaway and the food delivery co's haven't got a foothold in our town

There were about 180-200 kids in my year through HS.. we had one fat bloke & one fat gal. Over here we get people posting pics from the beach in the '70's.. no fat fucks in the pics at all. Now we see kids waddling around & you just know they ain't gonna see 40... & just as I posted that I glanced at the TV which showed one fat fuck & her four fat fuck kids on the news, probably 750lb total right there & two of them were toddlers.

MrLongbeard wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 12:40 pm

Count Steer wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 7:25 am Worth a read.

https://theconversation.com/five-things ... 0nutrition

From the comments

This is a relatively knew phenomenon. When I was at school in the ‘50s, '60s and '70s it was unusual to see obese people of whatever age

Probably true (before my time) but then you couldn't get shite like this https://www.independent.co.uk/life-styl ... 02278.html delivered to your door in under 30 minutes.
Never have I been so happy to not live within close distance to a chain takeaway and the food delivery co's haven't got a foothold in our town

One of my friends here struggles with weight (and depression so the second does have a habit of making the first worst) and while out here he always looses some weight - different eating style and more active. Then in the interseasons he's goes back to living in a city - less active, on demand deliveroo (i think that's what it's called), and he just gets back into bad habits

MrLongbeard wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 4:04 pm

Taipan wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 3:49 pm We very rarely eat takeaways as I (mostly) don't like McDonald's etc.

Once a week maximum here*, the local Turk does a mean lamb kebab, chuck the pita away and I've got me a no fuss lamb salad.

*although since I'm back on the low carb train that's dropping off, as there aren't that many choices that'll work that don't come with rice or chips

It's so so easy to make quite a lot of Chinese takeaway food, and if you do as most pros suggest (cook the night before to make fried rice the next day) then the carb changes and it's ok to eat as doesn't spike like freshly cooked rice does

If you do YouTube, look for Chin & Choo or Ziangs - same people, mother and son. Very sweary but the food is awesome

Looking at this - https://www.ft.com/content/b71a1c59-273 ... c562edeeac

(Mounjaro prices to increase by a reported 170% next month)

I suspect many people will either stop, go into (further) debt or seek cheaper, potentially counterfeit, alternative sources.

Donald Trump, the gift that keeps on giving…

Silly Car wrote: Thu Aug 14, 2025 2:09 pm Looking at this - https://www.ft.com/content/b71a1c59-273 ... c562edeeac

(Mounjaro prices to increase by a reported 170% next month)

I suspect many people will either stop, go into (further) debt or seek cheaper, potentially counterfeit, alternative sources.

Donald Trump, the gift that keeps on giving…

Trump: 'Our medical and pharma sector is thoroughly buggered and waaaay too expensive*.....so yours should be too'.

*and my medical expert, Mr Kennedy, agrees so he's canning vaccinations.

For purposes of transparency, I’ve been using Mounjaro since early May, I’m half a pound short of 3 stone loss in that time with around two stone to go, maybe +/- half a stone.

A quick bit of maths makes loss to date just under 3lb per week, admittedly in excess of the “recommended” 1-2 pounds per week but I’ve certainly not been excessively fasting or cutting calories to a ridiculous level.

I feel the jabs have done the following:

Focussed the mind on making better decisions - cost / value basis or I’m not spending that amount of money and not doing the right thing

Appetite suppression - without a doubt but I track calories daily via mapmyfitness and invariably I’m in the 1500-1800 calorie range and exceed this several times a week. Calorie numbers have been set by assessing my BMR and majorly sedentary lifestyle, knocking a few off to gain results

Better meal planning / food choices - 1500-1800 calories doesn’t give much scope for cakes, cheese and fry ups but within the time I’ve been dieting, I’ve had a number of meals out, been away for a few days, enjoyed a few drinking sessions and not been overly zealous at times

Side effects - sulphur burps, a few stomach cramps now and then, constipation (as a result of high protein diet), diarrhoea (very seldom)

Baggy clothes - I’m now struggling to find clothes in the wardrobe that still fit, I’m holding off as long as I can in buying new clobber but I know I’ll need some transitional clothes which will hopefully become too loose over next 12-16 weeks (I know next 2 stone will take longer / needs to take longer)

Muscle mass reduction - poncy scales show muscle rate has reduced from 72.2% to 68.6%, still in the “excellent” range according to the app but I know I’ll need to up the amount of steps, get the push iron back into service, start running or hit the gym to keep / improve this as muscle loss is attributed to weight gains after stopping in a lot of cases.


Given the price rise I’ll likely stop at the end of next month. While I can afford to continue, I’m not not prepared to pay £300+ every 4 weeks as that could buy a very good gym membership, time with personal trainer, new clothes, meal prep to the door (least likely option) etc.

I’m pleased I’ve done it though as I’m back into some very good habits food wise, eg protein shake & bar when out on the road rather than Maccy D’s for breakfast or lunch, although lunch yesterday was a wrap and zero cal drink rather than burger, fries, large latte etc. Coffee choice has changed from latte to americano unless I can get a skinny or I just make one at home and limit the number I have etc.

New pizza oven doesn’t help, a 270g dough ball is circa 600 calories for a 12” pizza with no toppings… but that’s a couple of times a week and usually when I’ve built up a large deficit by being much more active that day / day before etc.

Ultimately, I know weight loss is a very simple process of eat less / move more, irrespective of what any business with a vested interest may say, but the jabs have certainly helped me make better decisions regarding the food I consume and hopefully re-instilled the good habits.

Before I started I knew I needed to lose weight but my brain wouldn’t / couldn’t process that as well as everything else I had on my plate, life is much better now and I feel well placed to continue without the aid of a drug / supplement.

"Patients left in tears as NHS fails to prescribe obesity jabs."

https://www.itv.com/news/2025-08-05/pat ... esity-jabs



FWIW one of the g/f's mates has been prescribed them. Lost 11lbs in the first week.

Side effects may include pulmonary oedema, blackwater fever, giantism and rising of the lights.

Pharmaceutical company Eli Elly have announced that they are increasing the UK price of Mounjaro by 170%, £122 to £330. Trump's fault as he wants Europeans to pay more for meds so the US pay less.


https://www.reuters.com/business/health ... 025-08-14/
That's my cheats diet over.

ISTR ZRX is on it and his monthly bill has gone up a lot more than that, it would verify this bit from the Reuters article.

The U.S. pays more for prescription drugs than any other country, often nearly three times as much as other developed nations. Trump says he wants to narrow this gap to stop Americans from being "ripped off.

Silly Car wrote: Thu Aug 14, 2025 2:09 pm Looking at this - https://www.ft.com/content/b71a1c59-273 ... c562edeeac

(Mounjaro prices to increase by a reported 170% next month)

I suspect many people will either stop, go into (further) debt or seek cheaper, potentially counterfeit, alternative sources.

Donald Trump, the gift that keeps on giving…

Trinity765 wrote: Thu Aug 14, 2025 5:50 pm Pharmaceutical company Eli Elly have announced that they are increasing the UK price of Mounjaro by 170%, £122 to £330. Trump's fault as he wants Europeans to pay more for meds so the US pay less.


https://www.reuters.com/business/health ... 025-08-14/
That's my cheats diet over.

There goes my back up plan
Dropped a stone so far, so hopefully the next half and a bit will fuck off before winter appears and I start shoveling pasta into my face by the gallon (yes, yes, I'll be monitoring to make sure it doesn't all pile back on, and balancing it out with soup - at least, that's the plan )

Sunny wrote: Thu Aug 14, 2025 7:51 pm

Silly Car wrote: Thu Aug 14, 2025 2:09 pm Looking at this - https://www.ft.com/content/b71a1c59-273 ... c562edeeac

(Mounjaro prices to increase by a reported 170% next month)

I suspect many people will either stop, go into (further) debt or seek cheaper, potentially counterfeit, alternative sources.

Donald Trump, the gift that keeps on giving…

Trinity765 wrote: Thu Aug 14, 2025 5:50 pm Pharmaceutical company Eli Elly have announced that they are increasing the UK price of Mounjaro by 170%, £122 to £330. Trump's fault as he wants Europeans to pay more for meds so the US pay less.


https://www.reuters.com/business/health ... 025-08-14/
That's my cheats diet over.

There goes my back up plan
Dropped a stone so far, so hopefully the next half and a bit will fuck off before winter appears and I start shoveling pasta into my face by the gallon (yes, yes, I'll be monitoring to make sure it doesn't all pile back on, and balancing it out with soup - at least, that's the plan )

My online pharmacy has been in contact to say they can migrate people to Wegovy / ozempic at a lower cost so that’s always an option for me to consider. The maker, Novo Nordisk is Danish therefore unlikely to hike the price as a result of the orange one having a tantrum…

Silly Car wrote: Thu Aug 14, 2025 8:36 pm

Sunny wrote: Thu Aug 14, 2025 7:51 pm

Silly Car wrote: Thu Aug 14, 2025 2:09 pm Looking at this - https://www.ft.com/content/b71a1c59-273 ... c562edeeac

(Mounjaro prices to increase by a reported 170% next month)

I suspect many people will either stop, go into (further) debt or seek cheaper, potentially counterfeit, alternative sources.

Donald Trump, the gift that keeps on giving…

Trinity765 wrote: Thu Aug 14, 2025 5:50 pm Pharmaceutical company Eli Elly have announced that they are increasing the UK price of Mounjaro by 170%, £122 to £330. Trump's fault as he wants Europeans to pay more for meds so the US pay less.


https://www.reuters.com/business/health ... 025-08-14/
That's my cheats diet over.

There goes my back up plan
Dropped a stone so far, so hopefully the next half and a bit will fuck off before winter appears and I start shoveling pasta into my face by the gallon (yes, yes, I'll be monitoring to make sure it doesn't all pile back on, and balancing it out with soup - at least, that's the plan )

My online pharmacy has been in contact to say they can migrate people to Wegovy / ozempic at a lower cost so that’s always an option for me to consider. The maker, Novo Nordisk is Danish therefore unlikely to hike the price as a result of the orange one having a tantrum…

Win!

I looked at it. For me it could be the right one because the problem I have with diets is quite simply that I get hungry. But I didn't feel I could justify £140 a month. If the price ever comes down I'll look at it again. Encouraged that a pill version is apparently in the pipeline.

Tomcat wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 12:25 pm But I didn't feel I could justify £140 a month

You'd be close to saving that a month in food you won't be eating