revtothelimit - motorbike forum

Asian Boss wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:54 pm

Bigyin wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:21 pm

Asian Boss wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:48 am
Like Iccy says though, it's hard to lose money on bikes like this. I keep complaining about how I didn't get a nice DT125 before they became expensive and that's because I dithered.

The head instructor at my training place had a Honda MT5 as her first bike when she was 16 and after selling it and riding all the big sports bikes wanted another one. Took her years to find a decent original one and got it back to standard using original parts. Its now worth more than she paid for but i cant see her ever selling it

Two stroke sports mopeds seem to go for very good money these days. Nine grand for a nice Fizzie!

I get the nostalgia thing but I don't know if I'd have another 50, I remember getting back onto mine having ridden a 125 and it seemed so slow. I guess it's not about speed.

If only we’d known.

I think my mate still has a Fizzie in his garage that we used to race in the Moped Mayhem at Peterborough.

I doubt there’s an straight /unscraped bit on it.

Dodgy knees wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 9:19 am Cost could depend on type of bike. Main road bike or little off roader or commuter for some. Depreciation on new bikes or cars is horrendous, but buying on discount offsets this, very nicely sometimes.

Superduke gt 15k down to 11k on 2017s was a gooden. Buying outgoing model brand new can also be a winner. Don't think I would buy new without a good discount.

Incidentally, what year did the 17yo cc law change ?? I was a 125 er, my brother was 250.

83 I think, but might have been 82 or 84, I turned 17 in 84, and there were very few 2nd hand 125s I could afford because the law hadn't changed long before, but once I'd past my test there were tons of very cheap 250s to be had.

I was 17 November 83 and it was 125. So maybe early 83 or 82. I actually had a gp100 on 17 birthday. Brother had a new gsx 250 in red.

Was a different world.

83.

Reading through this I'm a bit surprised how many times its changed, although I suppose this does cover 60 years.

I did mine in 2001 aged 17 so got caught up in the theory test change.

https://www.lightningpass.com/changes-m ... earner-law

RRP is a nonsense as 85% of new bikes are on lease or pcp !....matey looks at what he can afford monthly rather than outright, this drives rrp up and then of course the used market...….so you talking used purchase or new.?....

I did my full test in Feb 1996, it was just a single test, with a couple of questions at the end asked in the test centre car park.

No I'm not sure that's right, it's just what the Internet says.

I suppose there may have been an overlap period when you could use the pursuit method with radio's, but you didn't HAVE to.

Even in 2001 when I learned they told me you couldn't fail for doing the wrong thing (I.e. go left when he said right) so long as you did the wrong thing properly, IYSWIM.

I locked up both wheels on my emergency stop but didn't get marked down for it. It was absolutely pissing it down and I didn't crash, so he let me have that one

Ride round the block a couple of times sir.
You didn't fall off, well done.

Couple of young chaps at work are learning ATM, they think it's really unfair that all I had to do was one theory and one 35 minute practical test.

I remember that when I was 17 I thought it was really unfair that all my Dad had to do was ride around the block.

I took my test in 1981 and I thought it was really unfair that I was restricted to a 250, and had to wear a helmet when my Dad could have ridden a bike of any capacity and not needed a helmet.

I rode a bike before helmets were mandatory, while the idea is cool the practicalities were not. Getting pinged by stones,flies,bees,wasps and rain is downright painful at any speed.

The Republic of Ireland didn't have a helmet law until 1979 and we used to remove our lids when over the border. It was nice for some gentle cruising on a sunny day,but helmets were worn for normal use.

KungFooBob wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:45 am I did my full test in Feb 1996, it was just a single test, with a couple of questions at the end asked in the test centre car park.

Did mine the same year and same format.

Potter wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:16 am

Asian Boss wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:54 pm
Two stroke sports mopeds seem to go for very good money these days. Nine grand for a nice Fizzie!

I get the nostalgia thing but I don't know if I'd have another 50, I remember getting back onto mine having ridden a 125 and it seemed so slow. I guess it's not about speed.

They're very slow.

I had a DT50 in my mid-20's just to get about on, bought it from a local youth for peanuts, but it was a good bike.
The problem was that a lot of people don't realise they only do 30mph and some motorists get frustrated. I would imagine these days it's even worse because there aren't many vehicles on the road today limited to <30mph.

My Son had a NRG scooter moped thing. He wanted it derestricted, but i said no way. Then I rode it. It was sporting a spannie, foam air filter and new main jet a week later.

I don't think the vast majority of riders make the decision to get a new bike based on the Sticker price, but rather the cost per month to make the change of bike on PCP / contract hire or whatever.
£150 per month doesn't sound nearly as scary as £12,000 if you're trade is worth say £5k..