Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?

[KungFooBob]

The lights are what makes it a Twingo though.

[KungFooBob]

So leccy bills are going down in April.

The government are dropping the Energy Company Obligation Scheme and some other stuff.

This means a lower price per kWh.

I'm reading that my Octopus Intelligent Go cheap rates is dropping from 7p to 3.49p.

My car this month has averaged 3.3 m/kWh.

So to get 100 miles it would use 30kwh.

Add 10% for charging losses, etc...

So that 100 miles in April will cost me £1.16

(If I wasn't charging for free at work).

It didn't actually go down to the rumored 3.49p, it's 5.2p.

So that 100 miles will now set me back £1.72.

[Taipan]

I think the NDA (or whatever you call it) has been lifted on the Renault Twingo reviews as a loads have hit the tinternest over the last 24 hours.

They're all absolutely gushing.

I like how they've made it look a bit like the original Twingo (Renault are the masters at this with their recent R5 and R4 EVs)

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/renault/t ... c-city-car

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-revie ... go-e-tech/

"WLTP driving range of 163 miles" Useless. Imagine what that's going to be in winter. Its a nice little town car and will probably suit a lot of local drivers I suppose, but its feeding the EV critics with that range for sure.

[MrLongbeard]

"WLTP driving range of 163 miles" Useless. Imagine what that's going to be in winter. Its a nice little town car and will probably suit a lot of local drivers I suppose, but its feeding the EV critics with that range for sure.

It's plenty for a city / town car, more than enough for an average commute and to do the weekly shop in.

[Taff]

but a town car is exactly what it is.
my wife does 14 miles a day to and from work, this car is good for a fortnight worth of commuting.

[KungFooBob]

It's got LFP batteries too, so you don't need to pay any attention to that 80% bollocks and can charge it to 100% every day.

[Horse]

"WLTP driving range of 163 miles" Useless. Imagine what that's going to be in winter. Its a nice little town car and will probably suit a lot of local drivers I suppose, but its feeding the EV critics with that range for sure.

It's plenty for a city / town car, more than enough for an average commute and to do the weekly shop in.

IIRC, the first Nissan Leaf had about 105 miles range when new.

Shows how things have developed that 163 miles is considered "useless"

[Taipan]

Range (and charge time) has been the biggest criticism and stumbling block for EV sales. In winter I bet that 163 is going to be more like 100-130, maybe worse if you have the heating on etc. This doesn't deserve a fanfare.

[v8-powered]

I'm about the pull the pin on a 2022 Model 3 LR - wish me luck

[Horse]

Range (and charge time) has been the biggest criticism and stumbling block for EV sales. In winter I bet that 163 is going to be more like 100-130, maybe worse if you have the heating on etc. This doesn't deserve a fanfare.

I've done two 'long' round trips this week: 42 & 46 miles. For an 'about town' car, 100-130 would be fine

And I've also recently done a five day 2,000 km trip in a petrol Twingo

[Taipan]

Range (and charge time) has been the biggest criticism and stumbling block for EV sales. In winter I bet that 163 is going to be more like 100-130, maybe worse if you have the heating on etc. This doesn't deserve a fanfare.

I've done two 'long' round trips this week: 42 & 46 miles. For an 'about town' car, 100-130 would be fine

And I've also recently done a five day 2,000 km trip in a petrol Twingo

I said it would be fine as a town car, but its hardly an innovative step forward for EVs and it'll fuel the critics.

[Taff]

Range (and charge time) has been the biggest criticism and stumbling block for EV sales. In winter I bet that 163 is going to be more like 100-130, maybe worse if you have the heating on etc. This doesn't deserve a fanfare.

This really is the same as complaining that your NC is shit because there's no way that it could keep up in a track day fast group full of 170bhp superbikes.

Of course it can't, it's not built for that purpose, nor does the Renault cost north of £60k.

[Taipan]

Range (and charge time) has been the biggest criticism and stumbling block for EV sales. In winter I bet that 163 is going to be more like 100-130, maybe worse if you have the heating on etc. This doesn't deserve a fanfare.

This really is the same as complaining that your NC is shit because there's no way that it could keep up in a track day fast group full of 170bhp superbikes.

Of course it can't, it's not built for that purpose, nor does the Renault cost north of £60k.

It could with me on it!

[Horse]

Range (and charge time) has been the biggest criticism and stumbling block for EV sales. In winter I bet that 163 is going to be more like 100-130, maybe worse if you have the heating on etc. This doesn't deserve a fanfare.

This really is the same as complaining that your NC is shit because there's no way that it could keep up in a track day fast group full of 170bhp superbikes.

Of course it can't, it's not built for that purpose, nor does the Renault cost north of £60k.

According to Auto express: "'Significantly under’ £20,000"

[Docca]

I think we’ll see more of this. I don’t like the Twingo, but applaud their entry point.

[ZRX61]

uh oh...

[ZRX61]

It could with me on it!

There's a ratio of alcohol to lap times. A couple of oz of rum will take 2 or 3 seconds off your lap times on a proper race track... but is frowned upon. (the booze lessens your apprehension, so you go faster)

Our best result at Moped Mayhem in the 80's was a 2nd place.. after we had 6 crashes & two of us were stretchered off the track on consecutive laps.. & our entire team was hammered.

[Taff]

uh oh...

It's an opinion

[Taipan]

uh oh...

Another great article from Harry. Pretty much what my mate is the trade is saying too. Net zero is ridiculous and this govt adding VED to EVs has left everyone feeling mugged off, especially when you can buy an ICE with less VED. Madness. Khan subjecting EVs to congestion charge in the capital is another nail in the coffin as its putting yet more people off. Small range EVs are equally as ridiculous too. Imagine releasing an ICE vehicle with c125-150 mile range!

Don't get me wrong, I'm (mostly) an EV convert, but Govt(s) are hindering their success. As Harry said, Tesla got it right. BMW are getting it right, Chinese offerings will get it right, everyone else, less so and worse yet, they are withdrawing because of ridiculous Govt policies and deadlines. Govt would be better subsidising home chargers and building up a street charging network and of course returning VED to £0.

[Desmodromic]

The VED on my Livewire One has arrived. £26. Yet my neighbours 15 year old diesel Polo is only £10

In some peoples minds that makes complete sense somehow