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Similar to the process I use. I get miserable and a bit overwhelmed, then plan for a worst-case scenario. I soon realise that even in that I can survive. After sorting that in my head, what actually happens (perhaps bad but nowhere near worst case) seems like a walk in the park.Potter wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 4:12 am ............. I feel for anyone going through a mental health issue, it's an unpleasant place to have to be. What works for me usually to get out of the hole is to take stock of where I am and make a plan and some changes.
This is going to sound a bit weird, but that sounds awful similar to some hormone imbalance symptoms. I'm sure I remember you posting something about hormones, but, anyway, not sure if that's interesting or not xPotter wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 1:30 pm I can be ok for ages and then I have a really bad few days where I feel down and I struggle to make sense of some things, it reminds me of the Pony the time when his burglar alarm was going off but he couldn't make sense of it. I don't know if it's connected to my migraine headaches but it's like a circuit breaker goes off somewhere and I'm not myself.
It's hard to explain but for example yesterday I literally couldn't understand a couple of the comments typed to me and on top of that I thought I'd sent a PM to someone that just disappeared, so I had to log off again because things didn't seem to be making sense, I seemingly couldn't function enough to understand the nuances of the things being posted to me as replies and I thought it best to switch off before I type something inadvertently that upsets someone because if I can't understand their humour then perhaps they won't get mine.
It's literally that bad, it's like I lose some cognitive ability for a day or two.
From what I've read it's short term stress related 'break-downs' rather than chronic depression or anything, I'm certainly no where near suicide or even any type of self harm, I'm just struggling to get along.
Andropause or male menopause is a real thing. Don't discount it...Potter wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 4:02 pm Yeah it’s a bit like ladies have said with menopause, like intense brain fog but in addition for me it’s accompanied with a feeling of dread.
Pretty sure it's a short term stress crash.
Like I said, there is no thought of self harm or anything.
For a lot of women (so I've read) it's a combination of what you've written, anxiety, dread, depression, vertigo, tinnitus, total lack of any drive (sexual or any other type!) and various other things.Potter wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 4:02 pm Yeah it’s a bit like ladies have said with menopause, like intense brain fog but in addition for me it’s accompanied with a feeling of dread.
Pretty sure it's a short term stress crash.
Like I said, there is no thought of self harm or anything.
Partly why I posted, hadn't got the link to hand and couldn't remember andropause, but there is more and more research into hormones with relation to men and women. I really think that the results of the research are likely to show connections with a lot more than anyone thinks right now.Taipan wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 4:08 pmAndropause or male menopause is a real thing. Don't discount it...Potter wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 4:02 pm Yeah it’s a bit like ladies have said with menopause, like intense brain fog but in addition for me it’s accompanied with a feeling of dread.
Pretty sure it's a short term stress crash.
Like I said, there is no thought of self harm or anything.
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/male-menopause/
Good call on the b12!Skub wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 6:07 pm @Potter I had one such episode a few years ago,surreal and detached. Like most blokes I'm not a doc chaser,but it concerned me enough to get a few blood tests and they revealed my B12 was borkened,so that was me on the jabs every 3 months.
It might be a good idea to get a few bloods done to keep you right.
How you getting on with that B12 jabs? I start feeling i need a fix at 9 or 10 weeks. I started to take B12 supplements but if i could get some syringes i would just inject the buggers myself.Skub wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 6:07 pm @Potter I had one such episode a few years ago,surreal and detached. Like most blokes I'm not a doc chaser,but it concerned me enough to get a few blood tests and they revealed my B12 was borkened,so that was me on the jabs every 3 months.
It might be a good idea to get a few bloods done to keep you right.
Honestly,I feel no difference at all,before or after. I wasn't tired or falling asleep all the time,the deficiency didn't seem to affect me in that way.Felix wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:24 pmHow you getting on with that B12 jabs? I start feeling i need a fix at 9 or 10 weeks. I started to take B12 supplements but if i could get some syringes i would just inject the buggers myself.Skub wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 6:07 pm @Potter I had one such episode a few years ago,surreal and detached. Like most blokes I'm not a doc chaser,but it concerned me enough to get a few blood tests and they revealed my B12 was borkened,so that was me on the jabs every 3 months.
It might be a good idea to get a few bloods done to keep you right.
I am Mr Sleepy after two month or so but having said that they discovered Pernicious Anaemia at the same time so on Iron tabs and Folic Acid. I got nothing that Iccy mentions i was just tired and needed a nap before tea time.Skub wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 7:29 pm Honestly,I feel no difference at all,before or after. I wasn't tired or falling asleep all the time,the deficiency didn't seem to affect me in that way.
By buggery it's ruddy bright.MrLongbeard wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:06 pm Noticed I've started to slip, so ordered myself a therapy light
That sounds nice, I've got a wife and daughter that get up an hour before I have to, I've not needed to set my alarm in yearsTaipan wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:49 am I like teh idee of a gentle warm light coming into the room to help wake me
It was the wife's alarm that wakes me. I'm thinking of her as well as me you now...MrLongbeard wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:09 pmThat sounds nice, I've got a wife and daughter that get up an hour before I have to, I've not needed to set my alarm in yearsTaipan wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:49 am I like teh idee of a gentle warm light coming into the room to help wake me
Mrs D (and therefore by extension, I) has one of those sunrise wake me up lamps on the bedside table.Taipan wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:49 am Sounds interesting. I like teh idee of a gentle warm light coming into the room to help wake me. Seems better than a startling bell in darkness!
I've always said, if a placebo works, its better than medication!
If it was within reach, i'd probably launch it!Mr. Dazzle wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 7:32 amMrs D (and therefore by extension, I) has one of those sunrise wake me up lamps on the bedside table.Taipan wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:49 am Sounds interesting. I like teh idee of a gentle warm light coming into the room to help wake me. Seems better than a startling bell in darkness!
I've always said, if a placebo works, its better than medication!
It really makes me laugh, cause if you don't wake up by the time it's finished doing it's sunrise routine it has a really aggressive "BEEP BEEEEEP BEEPEBEEPBEEPBEEP" alarm.
'You had your chance, it's time for a dose of reality' sort of thing.
That's sad to hear and no doubt it was tough for you too. Does he know what triggers these episodes? I remember during CBT that I had to learn the signs of a build up and the trigger, then take avoiding action.Yorick wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 12:33 pm I spent a lot of the weekend with a lad who suffers badly. He's the sort of person you don't expect to as he's so batshit crazy normally and has us in stitches.
Any he had a massive meltdown about a mile into our 2nd enduro ride.
I got him back to tarmac and he was able to get back to his digs.
Talking to him last night he's on mega medication and finds it really hard sometimes. His mates who came with him are all very supportive.
He said he'd spent most of the day in the sea. Said he'd been free diving.
I thought that was going deep. Apparently not.
Only 10/15 feet down but just sits there for 3 minutes. Sort of medication. Loads of beautiful fish where he was.
And at nights he straps torches to his forearms
Helps him a lot.