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Re: Depression
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:17 pm
by Yorick
I've just watched an amazing video by Taylor McKenzie.
I raced against his dad. (Beat him once)
I watched him grow up from 4 years old as he often came to trackdays when his dad was instructing alongside me.
Then later he also became an instructor and we'd often have a little chat.
This shows him as an amazingly honest and intelligent lad.
And talks very openly about his depression.
It's only 15 minutes. I'm bloody glad I found out it by mistake
Enjoy
Re: Depression
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:01 pm
by darthpunk
I'm sure it's just the time of year, but by golly I am in a pit of depression at the moment.
Been on Sertraline for a few months, upped the dose in October. Cannot get excited about anything. Interest in everything has gone completely, mindlessly watch YouTube videos looking for something to inspire me. No interest in work, no interest in looking or training for something else, feel like my life is done at 48 and any plans I did have just need to go on the back burner and stay there. Then you turn on the TV or scroll through the internet and see how bad other people have it and feel guilty for acting like this.
I have taken a new interest in chocolate, my waistline can attest to that at least
Re: Depression
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:18 pm
by MyLittleStudPony
I think SSRIs like Sertraline can remove the highs as well as the lows. It can make life feel a bit flat.
Depression can go away by itself or as a result of changes in your life.
You will feel better soon, even if that doesn't seem likely right now.
Re: Depression
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:45 pm
by tricol
darthpunk wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:01 pm
I'm sure it's just the time of year, but by golly I am in a pit of depression at the moment.
Been on Sertraline for a few months, upped the dose in October. Cannot get excited about anything. Interest in everything has gone completely, mindlessly watch YouTube videos looking for something to inspire me. No interest in work, no interest in looking or training for something else, feel like my life is done at 48 and any plans I did have just need to go on the back burner and stay there. Then you turn on the TV or scroll through the internet and see how bad other people have it and feel guilty for acting like this.
I have taken a new interest in chocolate, my waistline can attest to that at least
Pretty much how I feel too, minus the medication.
I tried various SSRI's and I'd say I felt flat at best.
Good luck, hope you feel better soon.
Re: Depression
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 7:47 pm
by Couchy
darthpunk wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:01 pm
I'm sure it's just the time of year, but by golly I am in a pit of depression at the moment.
Been on Sertraline for a few months, upped the dose in October. Cannot get excited about anything. Interest in everything has gone completely, mindlessly watch YouTube videos looking for something to inspire me. No interest in work, no interest in looking or training for something else, feel like my life is done at 48 and any plans I did have just need to go on the back burner and stay there. Then you turn on the TV or scroll through the internet and see how bad other people have it and feel guilty for acting like this.
I have taken a new interest in chocolate, my waistline can attest to that at least
I’m no fan of SSRI’s they flatline all emotions in me so I don’t take them having tried them. The interest in chocolate may be you like the chemicals it releases in the brain, things like dopamine. My be worth speaking to your doc and asking for a different SSRI, some like fluoxetine help with a dopamine deficiency. Obviously this is only my personal experience but may be worth a change if doc agrees. Of course they may say internet person is talking shit in which case ignore me !
Re: Depression
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:08 pm
by Taipan
Vitamin D supplement may help at this time of year?
Re: Depression
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:24 pm
by Yorick
Couchy wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 7:47 pm
darthpunk wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:01 pm
I'm sure it's just the time of year, but by golly I am in a pit of depression at the moment.
Been on Sertraline for a few months, upped the dose in October. Cannot get excited about anything. Interest in everything has gone completely, mindlessly watch YouTube videos looking for something to inspire me. No interest in work, no interest in looking or training for something else, feel like my life is done at 48 and any plans I did have just need to go on the back burner and stay there. Then you turn on the TV or scroll through the internet and see how bad other people have it and feel guilty for acting like this.
I have taken a new interest in chocolate, my waistline can attest to that at least
I’m no fan of SSRI’s they flatline all emotions in me so I don’t take them having tried them. The interest in chocolate may be you like the chemicals it releases in the brain, things like dopamine. My be worth speaking to your doc and asking for a different SSRI, some like fluoxetine help with a dopamine deficiency. Obviously this is only my personal experience but may be worth a change if doc agrees. Of course they may say internet person is talking shit in which case ignore me !
A very wise man at my first job gave me some very good advice.
Always listen to folk's advice. Then decide whether to follow it or not.
If you don't listen, you might miss out on summat good.
Re: Depression
Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2023 9:00 pm
by mboy
MyLittleStudPony wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:18 pm
I think SSRIs like Sertraline can remove the highs as well as the lows. It can make life feel a bit flat.
Depression can go away by itself or as a result of changes in your life.
You will feel better soon, even if that doesn't seem likely right now.
I can't deal with them. I have been prescribed them numerous times by doctors that don't know what they are doing... A flatline would result in my impending suicide quite frankly... I know the NHS love to hand them out like sweets, believing that they are a one size fits all solution. But they just flatline people, turn them into Zombies. I'd rather deal with the lows as long as I can still have the highs!
I have found, strangely, that riding bikes helps enormously with my mental health... So equipping myself with bikes and gear that I can use all year round come what may has helped significantly too, rather than it being a summertime only passtime.
It's also worth remembering that most people out there are self obsessed cunts too...

Re: Depression
Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2023 9:10 pm
by Noggin
mboy wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2023 9:00 pm
I can't deal with them. I have been prescribed them numerous times by doctors that don't know what they are doing... A flatline would result in my impending suicide quite frankly... I know the NHS love to hand them out like sweets, believing that they are a one size fits all solution. But they just flatline people, turn them into Zombies. I'd rather deal with the lows as long as I can still have the highs!
I have found, strangely, that riding bikes helps enormously with my mental health... So equipping myself with bikes and gear that I can use all year round come what may has helped significantly too, rather than it being a summertime only passtime.
It's also worth remembering that most people out there are self obsessed cunts too...
I'm fairly sure that finding motorbikes pretty much saved my life. The last 6 years have been really tough as the two passions in life I have have been restricted due to injury. But I've kept on going because 'this summer I'll be riding bikes all summer' - I've only said that before each summer for the last 5 years !! The thought that '
soon' I'll both have a bike and the ability to actually ride it is something that has kept me from just sitting at the bottom of the black hole - I've been bouncing along a bit because at some point, I WILL be able to ride again. And this winter I seem to be ok fitness wise to ski a reasonable amount
But I don't think that it's strange that riding bikes helps with mental health - it 100% does for me

Re: Depression
Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:42 pm
by Noggin
Stuff at work today has thrown the D word in my face a bit. Having to spell out that I'm registered disabled for work wasn't something I found remotely easy.
And that word is so hard to write - I don't shout that I'm disabled because despite it being a small disability compared to many friends (lets leave out mental stuff), it's quite a big thing to someone that never let anyone tell her that she couldn't do something cos she'd damn well go try it! And I don't 'look' disabled. I've learnt to hide it really well (most people just think that I'm left handed cos I rarely use my right hand when I'm out as don't need the spasm of pain to cause me to cry out and then have to explain!). A mate that has come out for the season hadn't seen me for 3 years - she's amazed that I stand 'properly' now. Before apparently I was lopsided! Now I look 'normal'! Which makes it even harder for people to understand that - my arm doesn't work properly and causes me pain depending on what I do.
I've had friends and family say, "oh but you can do that when your arm is better" - I don't always say "this is as good as it's gonna get mate. It's never going to be 'better' "

. This is it and the prognosis is that it'll get worse and need replacing again in a few years (7 ish if I get ten years of life out of it - maybe more if I don't abuse it too much!!). I got bored of explaining shit like that to people that really don't care that much (family and friends to be fair - has been a shock to my system, not something I got used to in the last 6 years, that they don't seem to care!)
I did start to occasionally use the D word with a couple of friends but it's hard to accept. I think especially because I have a few friends that are 'properly' disabled - wheelchairs/false limbs. I feel like I should MTFU because it's not THAT bad.
I suppose I'm putting this here as I don't know where else to put it, and it makes me cry! Didn't realise how big a 'thing' it is in my head until I've had to talk about it so much today and explain to people. If it's just in my head I can ignore it, but I think it's been festering a bit more than I realised.
I wish my head could be less fcuked up and I really wish my shoulder/arm could be much less fcuked up - but the second definitely isn't possible and I guess I need to work on the first one!!
Mostly I'm ok, but could have really done with not being on my own this Christmas - and definitely not having the most mad day at work that left me in pain and far too tired (between the work and the pain) to actually go out anywhere and see people - just took the bus to chat with a mate and popped into a restaurant to see another - not exactly socialising tho!!! But I'll bounce - I always do eventually (well, not after I've flown off a motorbike I guess!!

). Just takes a bit longer sometimes to haul ass and get the balance

No magic wand out there it seems

Re: Depression
Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2023 9:44 am
by Couchy
mboy wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2023 9:00 pm
MyLittleStudPony wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:18 pm
I think SSRIs like Sertraline can remove the highs as well as the lows. It can make life feel a bit flat.
Depression can go away by itself or as a result of changes in your life.
You will feel better soon, even if that doesn't seem likely right now.
I can't deal with them. I have been prescribed them numerous times by doctors that don't know what they are doing... A flatline would result in my impending suicide quite frankly... I know the NHS love to hand them out like sweets, believing that they are a one size fits all solution. But they just flatline people, turn them into Zombies. I'd rather deal with the lows as long as I can still have the highs!
I have found, strangely, that riding bikes helps enormously with my mental health... So equipping myself with bikes and gear that I can use all year round come what may has helped significantly too, rather than it being a summertime only passtime.
It's also worth remembering that most people out there are self obsessed cunts too...
The last bit, self obsessed and entitled. Not sure many do it deliberately but a huge amount of people live life without a thought how their actions affect others. Driving is a perfect example of this human behaviour. Even simple things like parking with a thought to how someone may get by your car, but nope they only care about themselves. I’ve found not giving a fuck and using some of their attitude helps with your own mental health. Problem is if you’ve been bought up to think about and respect others it’s difficult, however it is possible to do what’s right for yourself and still be a decent person. I have found telling people they’re being a cunt helps massively too, obviously in a non angry or threatening way, tbh it is funny when they get angry though cos then you can provoke them a little

Re: Depression
Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:52 pm
by mboy
Couchy wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 9:44 am
The last bit, self obsessed and entitled. Not sure many do it deliberately but a huge amount of people live life without a thought how their actions affect others. Driving is a perfect example of this human behaviour. Even simple things like parking with a thought to how someone may get by your car, but nope they only care about themselves. I’ve found not giving a fuck and using some of their attitude helps with your own mental health. Problem is if you’ve been bought up to think about and respect others it’s difficult, however it is possible to do what’s right for yourself and still be a decent person. I have found telling people they’re being a cunt helps massively too, obviously in a non angry or threatening way, tbh it is funny when they get angry though cos then you can provoke them a little
100% agreed
I have always approached life with a respect for others. Sadly, as I have got older, the more that respect isn't requited, the more it affects my mental health. And with the current state of the government, economy and the endless promotion of self serving being the way to get ahead in the world, it has really affected my mental health over the years.
Then roll forward to September this year, when I fell out with my best mate because he has become the epitome of a self serving arsehole, 30yrs of friendship thrown down the toilet because he no longer cares about anything except himself and his kids. Not only did he tell me in no uncertain terms that 30yrs of friendship meant nothing to him, but he also gave me shit for not being greedy/ambitious enough myself and that I should already be in the bigger house that me and my GF are aspiring to purchase at some point in the future if I hadn't been wasting my time...
I have spent 6 months off work in the last 15 due to complications with various cancer surgeries and recovery.
He can't even process that Cancer might possibly have affected me at all mentally, not just physically.
Re: Depression
Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:38 pm
by the_priest
Daughter came off her meds two/three weeks ago. She is slowly surfacing and showing some glimpses of her true self, but sadly her darkness is also descending again. She has brilliant days of bright gaiety and is truly herself, and then it all comes crashing down as her anxiety kicks in and she loses all sense of self worth and interest in life again. Exhausting for my wife and I. My wife gets the worst of it, and it affects our relationship as well as she cannot cope with everything happening in work and life herself.
We are getting by, but it can be utterly exhausting. Walking the dog helps, but that does not happen as often as I would like as I'm busy with two parishes and all that that life entails. It is not about me, but my beautiful darling daughter who is not able to enjoy life to the full because her anxiety and autistic exhaustion leave her gutted and with no energy to face what comes next.
Re: Depression
Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:22 pm
by Wossname
Mental health problems like that must be so worrying and draining for all concerned - you and your wife, but also for your daughter herself. I haven’t anything to offer except my concern and good wishes, if they help at all.
On a tangent, I’ve always wondered what influence someone’s faith would have in this situation. It must either help and support you, or leave you wondering about the “justice” of what your daughter is having to go through. Difficult…understatement.
Re: Depression
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:57 pm
by Yorick
I've been on Esidrex 25 Mg for a couple of years for high blood pressure.
Just been Googling the side effects..
Anxiety and tiredness. Fark.
Some mornings I can't get off the sofa.
Anxiety or insane tiredness. Sometimes both.
Not had one yet and feel better than normal.
I'll be down the doctors soonish to have words.
Hope something good comes of this

Re: Depression
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2024 1:35 pm
by Yambo
Yorick wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:57 pm
I've been on Esidrex 25 Mg for a couple of years for high blood pressure.
Just been Googling the side effects..
Anxiety and tiredness. Fark.
Some mornings I can't get off the sofa.
Anxiety or insane tiredness. Sometimes both.
Not had one yet and feel better than normal.
I'll be down the doctors soonish to have words.
Hope something good comes of this
I've been on meds for high blood pressure since 2006, a few different ones. Not one of them has had those side effects.
Re: Depression
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2024 1:37 pm
by Yorick
Yambo wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 1:35 pm
Yorick wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:57 pm
I've been on Esidrex 25 Mg for a couple of years for high blood pressure.
Just been Googling the side effects..
Anxiety and tiredness. Fark.
Some mornings I can't get off the sofa.
Anxiety or insane tiredness. Sometimes both.
Not had one yet and feel better than normal.
I'll be down the doctors soonish to have words.
Hope something good comes of this
I've been on meds for high blood pressure since 2006, a few different ones. Not one of them has had those side effects.
I also have the horror dreams and poor early morning sleep.

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Re: Depression
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2024 2:14 pm
by Wossname
Reserpine is only one of several meds used for high BP, but it seems to have a fairly wide range of quite nasty side effects. I’d have a chat with your dr about alternatives if some of them are troubling you. FWIW, I’m on Bisoprolol and Lisinopril with no problems (tw).
Re: Depression
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 10:14 pm
by Buckaroo
I had some issues with Lisinopril (apologies if spelling is incorrect) so changed to Losartan potassium, which strangely I worked on years ago, and I have had no problems at all.
You might have built up an intolerance to either the active or the incipients.
Re: Depression
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 4:17 pm
by BartonBKing
Is depression becoming more easily talked about? I’ve tried to type this three times now. I think the OP has some big balls and I respect and admire that. I think I’ve suffered since a teenager. I go to somewhere dark and it can take a few days to come out but it’s always lurking. Suicide has often crossed my mind, as if this all there is, what’s the point? Misery after misery. Why not be free from it all? I was made redundant before Christmas and I’m terrified of not finding another job. I feel useless enough as it is. The missus has too much stress with her work that she’s so tired that I can’t tell her any of this. I try to keep busy but there’s only so much to do and motivation and energy goes out the window. Took me all my effort to walk out of my house and get a fucking haircut today. How sad. Just how do you tell your doctor? Does anybody really care or are we just another burden/statistic?