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Re: It's Safety gone mad.....?
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2025 8:45 pm
by Felix
exportman wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 8:41 pm
The soft bongs I don't mind but some are set to actually not allow you to exceed the speed limit.
As for KPH I just change the setting in Waze to show it as KPH not MPH simples
I do that with my sat nav. My van and camperbus are reading slow where 65 is actually 70mph. So must a lot of other cars as i tend to be going faster than most of them on the motorway.
Re: It's Safety gone mad.....?
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2025 8:50 pm
by Mr. Dazzle
You're allowed to sell cars with a certain level of speedo error but you're not allowed to sell cars which under read.
Since its basically infeasible to sell cars in any kind of volume with perfectly accurate speedos they ALL under read, so that the worst (best?) amount of error would mean your speedo is exactly right.
Re: It's Safety gone mad.....?
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2025 8:52 pm
by Horse
asmethurst99 wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 1:04 pm
Count Steer wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2025 7:39 am
asmethurst99 wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:39 pm
Isn’t it Helmets reducing MC deaths significantly?
Improving standards on helmet construction are probably a factor but that's no different from improving car design and construction standards to reduce damage to the contents and the people they hit really.
I get what you mean but i meant people actually wearing them - Just checked 1973 so we have had them for over 50 years
IIRC, voluntary helmet wearing was at about 90% before it was compulsory.
Re: It's Safety gone mad.....?
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2025 9:00 pm
by Felix
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 8:50 pm
You're allowed to sell cars with a certain level of speedo error but you're not allowed to sell cars which under read.
Since its basically infeasible to sell cars in any kind of volume with perfectly accurate speedos they ALL under read, so that the worst (best?) amount of error would mean your speedo is exactly right.
Even the wifes car is under but less than the van. The bus is exaggerated as i went up from 14 to 16" wheels. I forgot about this on my last trip to Devon/Cornwall. Doing 70 on the motorway (75) in a plated 4.2 tonne bus and wondering why my MPG was average 22

I shall be keeping my speedo at 60 from now on.
Re: It's Safety gone mad.....?
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2025 10:55 pm
by Cousin Jack
Horse wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 8:52 pm
asmethurst99 wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 1:04 pm
Count Steer wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2025 7:39 am
Improving standards on helmet construction are probably a factor but that's no different from improving car design and construction standards to reduce damage to the contents and the people they hit really.
I get what you mean but i meant people actually wearing them - Just checked 1973 so we have had them for over 50 years
IIRC, voluntary helmet wearing was at about 90% before it was compulsory.
I was wearing one in 1964. It looked cool.
Re: It's Safety gone mad.....?
Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 12:55 am
by ZRX61
Cousin Jack wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 10:55 pm
I was wearing one in 1964. It looked cool.
My cousin wasn't wearing one when he went through a phone box in 1960. Spent the next 40 years in various hospitals.
40 years dying ain't much of a living.
Re: It's Safety gone mad.....?
Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 11:04 am
by Rockburner
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 8:50 pm
You're allowed to sell cars with a certain level of speedo error but you're not allowed to sell cars which under read.
Since its basically infeasible to sell cars in any kind of volume with perfectly accurate speedos they ALL under read, so that the worst (best?) amount of error would mean your speedo is exactly right.
One of those "under"s should be an "over", shirley?
Re: It's Safety gone mad.....?
Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 12:14 pm
by Horse
Rockburner wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2025 11:04 am
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 8:50 pm
You're allowed to sell cars with a certain level of speedo error but you're not allowed to sell cars which under read.
Since its basically infeasible to sell cars in any kind of volume with perfectly accurate speedos they ALL under read, so that the worst (best?) amount of error would mean your speedo is exactly right.
One of those "under"s should be an "over", shirley?
I had wondered (wovered) ...
Re: It's Safety gone mad.....?
Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 8:31 pm
by David
I see what you did there.....