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Re: Depression
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 12:48 pm
by Taipan
Not wishing to cast aspersions, but how well do you know her boyfriend? Confidence loss can be a sign of an abusive partner in some cases...
Re: Depression
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 12:49 pm
by Yorick
gremlin wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 12:41 pm
Yorick wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:33 am
Maybe book it for young Gremmers?
Certainly something we look into. Ta.
I'd much rather we sorted her issues at source, though. There's clearly something that's triggered it, as she used to be super confident. Now we're seeing avoidance tactics used to dodge discussions or us trying to help. Her first session with the hypnotherapy guy is tomorrow and we wanted to talk about it, reiterate the need to engage, etc. So last night, she stays around a friend, just to avoid talking about it. Frustrating, but trying to keep it low-key otherwise
that becomes a trigger for anxiety.
Ad infinitum....
I'd assumed that I'd never be cured so have lots of coping mechanisms and avoidance strategies.
My enduro pals are very supportive when we encounter difficult terrain that I can't ride across.
But only this morning Pen suggested hypnotherapy, and gonna look into that.
Re: Depression
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 1:00 pm
by gremlin
Yorick wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 12:49 pm
gremlin wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 12:41 pm
Yorick wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:33 am
Maybe book it for young Gremmers?
Certainly something we look into. Ta.
I'd much rather we sorted her issues at source, though. There's clearly something that's triggered it, as she used to be super confident. Now we're seeing avoidance tactics used to dodge discussions or us trying to help. Her first session with the hypnotherapy guy is tomorrow and we wanted to talk about it, reiterate the need to engage, etc. So last night, she stays around a friend, just to avoid talking about it. Frustrating, but trying to keep it low-key otherwise
that becomes a trigger for anxiety.
Ad infinitum....
I'd assumed that I'd never be cured so have lots of coping mechanisms and avoidance strategies.
My enduro pals are very supportive when we encounter difficult terrain that I can't ride across.
But only this morning Pen suggested hypnotherapy, and gonna look into that.
I'll let you know how it goes for Gremlinette. It worked for Mrs. G many years ago*, who suffered the same anxiety issues that the Gremlinette has now. Hard to believe that a woman who runs a very successful business now, wouldn't get on a 'plane and used to wake up in a panic, convinced she's left the delivery doors at her employers unit unlocked. We had to drive there at 3am, and of course they were locked. She wouldn't queue in a supermarket if somebody was behind her, as she felt 'trapped'. Motorways were a no-no too.
Of course, she's now having the guilt trip that somehow she's passed it down in her genes, which is complete bollocks, but kids do have a habit of messing parents up, big time.
*That, and being married to a super guy, such as me.
Re: Depression
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 1:35 pm
by Noggin
gremlin wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 12:41 pm
Yorick wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:33 am
Maybe book it for young Gremmers?
Certainly something we look into. Ta.
I'd much rather we sorted her issues at source, though. There's clearly something that's triggered it, as she used to be super confident. Now we're seeing avoidance tactics used to dodge discussions or us trying to help. Her first session with the hypnotherapy guy is tomorrow and we wanted to talk about it, reiterate the need to engage, etc. So last night, she stays around a friend, just to avoid talking about it. Frustrating, but trying to keep it low-key otherwise
that becomes a trigger for anxiety.
Ad infinitum....
I don't think it can always be sorted 'at source' until coping mechanisms are in place. Everyone is different though. But having coping mechanisms in place would be my first step and then work out the source (if there is one)
I have always been terrified of flying - can get myself on a plane and off, but the taking off and landing (and any turbulence in between) can reduce me to floods of tears in seconds. Once I'm off the bloody thing, I'm fine. It's very very weird. I've had so very many people explain to me how and why the bastard machines are safe (from flying info, accident stats and the physics of how they stay up there), but I have to gear myself up every single time. Doesn't help that I pretty much always fly alone, so no one to hold my hand
Re: Depression
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2024 4:48 pm
by Yorick
Anyone tried hypnotherapy?
A couple of girls here used a guy and both stopped smoking in 2 session.
Then he moved back to UK.
But another girl we know paid him and lost 2 stones. But took 6 sessions.
I've researched and it can work for anxiety.
But. And a big But.
I'm sceptical anyway, but I'll keep an open mind. Will that stop me going under?
2nd but, how can someone 2,000 miles away put me into a trance?
Is it smoke n mirrors crossed with magic beans?
Re: Depression
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 9:11 am
by gremlin
Taipan wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 12:48 pm
Not wishing to cast aspersions, but how well do you know her boyfriend? Confidence loss can be a sign of an abusive partner in some cases...
Her anxiety pre-dates Josh.
Re: Depression
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 9:19 am
by gremlin
So this morning, Mrs G and Gremlinette are booked on a train to Manchester to pick up the keys to the flat share for year 2 of uni. I get out of the shower and Mrs. G shows me a late night Snap from Gremlinette, explaining she's feeling anxious, hasn't slept, doesn't want to get on the train. Notwithstanding, I make her a coffee and tell her to get in the shower as there's a train to catch. I drop them both at the station, come back and take the mutt for a walk.
I come back to several missed calls and messages. To cut a long story short, Gremlinette is crying on the train up to London, sweating, hyperventilating, etc. Net result being she is coming home and Mrs. G is left going up to Manny to sort out the flat. Mrs. G has been messaging to say, 'Don't be angry, I know what she's going through', but, in full disclosure, I do get fucking angry but I can never let the kid see that. It's so frustrating to see somebody so smart and sassy suddenly become frightened of getting on a fucking train or plane.
Mrs. G. is now very upset and I feel like my fucking head is going to explode.
Re: Depression
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 10:45 am
by Treadeager
Yorick was asking about hypnotherapy... Nobody could be more sceptical than me , but during a cabaret act some time ago , I was " put under " and the missus told me I was miles away , and putty in his hands . If you use a reputable service what's to lose ? Might even work for Gremlinette ? Good luck .
Re: Depression
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 10:55 am
by Taipan
Someone i knew finally quit smoking through hypnotherapy, but it did wear off and a refresher course was needed and they eventually become an evangelic non smoker!
The cynic in me thinks the sneaky hypnotherapist date stamped his treatment time!
Re: Depression
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 12:32 pm
by Bustaspoke
Taipan wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2024 10:55 am
Someone i knew finally quit smoking through hypnotherapy, but it did wear off and a refresher course was needed and they eventually become an evangelic non smoker!
The cynic in me thinks the sneaky hypnotherapist date stamped his treatment time!
When I was an apprentice one of the sparks had hypnotherapy to make him give up smoking,but,and this is a true story,he still wanted a social smoke when he went to the pub so he got the hypnotherapist to hypnotise him & allow him only to smoke when in the pub.The problem was that he then spent to much time in the pub...
He had to go back to the therapist & get re-programmed,no smoking anywhere
Re: Depression
Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 5:28 pm
by gremlin
The Gremlinette had a flat tyre last night, so her car was running on the space-saver. I informed her that this wasn't a long term strategy, not least as it was on the front. She concurred. I ask if she wants to go and sort it now, get it done.
So we nip down to the local tyre place, me, her and my wallet, to see if it could be repaired. Short answer, no, but he had a new one, asked if I wanted it done, which I did.
I come back to the car and she's in a panic: why is he doing it now? Can we come back? I explained again about driving safety, but by now she's in tears and sweating. I ask her exactly what she's worried about. She tells me it that she now cannot leave and feels trapped. So I hold her hand and explain that, yes, we can leave, but that's letting the anxiety win. We can go for a walk, get a drink in the shop opposite, whatever we want to do. I also suggest to she refers to the hypnotherapy notes and do what he suggests. We sit and breathe (I'm good at breathing, me. So good I can do it in my sleep) and she's holding my hand and we talk shit for a while. Within 15 minutes, car is all done and she's all hyped and pleased that we'd done it.
She was so buzzing we cleaned the car to celebrate.
Little wins. Baby steps. Small victories.
Re: Depression
Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 5:47 pm
by Yorick
gremlin wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 5:28 pm
The Gremlinette had a flat tyre last night, so her car was running on the space-saver. I informed her that this wasn't a long term strategy, not least as it was on the front. She concurred. I ask if she wants to go and sort it now, get it done.
So we nip down to the local tyre place, me, her and my wallet, to see if it could be repaired. Short answer, no, but he had a new one, asked if I wanted it done, which I did.
I come back to the car and she's in a panic: why is he doing it now? Can we come back? I explained again about driving safety, but by now she's in tears and sweating. I ask her exactly what she's worried about. She tells me it that she now cannot leave and feels trapped. So I hold her hand and explain that, yes, we can leave, but that's letting the anxiety win. We can go for a walk, get a drink in the shop opposite, whatever we want to do. I also suggest to she refers to the hypnotherapy notes and do what he suggests. We sit and breathe (I'm good at breathing, me. So good I can do it in my sleep) and she's holding my hand and we talk shit for a while. Within 15 minutes, car is all done and she's all hyped and pleased that we'd done it.
She was so buzzing we cleaned the car to celebrate.
Little wins. Baby steps. Small victories.
She's a lucky girl to have you
Re: Depression
Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 5:51 pm
by gremlin
The uncanny thing is, Mrs. Gremlin had that exact same anxiety trigger. Motorways, queuing with a trolley in the supermarket, getting on public transport.
I know anxiety cannot be passed down through the genes, but fuck me, it's bizarre.
Re: Depression
Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 5:53 pm
by gremlin
Yorick wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 5:47 pm
She's a lucky girl to have you
I know. That's three new tyres she's had off me lately.
Re: Depression
Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 5:55 pm
by Yorick
gremlin wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 5:53 pm
Yorick wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 5:47 pm
She's a lucky girl to have you
I know. That's three new tyres she's had off me lately.
You always carry a couple around your waist for emergencies
Re: Depression
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2024 12:21 pm
by Yorick
Blimey. His family are very brave to talk openly about this.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/articles/cy84x7rrppno
Re: Depression
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2024 8:59 am
by Yorick
Just been for an MRI scan for injured wrist. Fark. After 30 seconds I was scared. After a minute I screamed to let me out.
Never known my anxiety to be so high.
Fark. It was scary.
I think they're gonna request a scan with sedation.
Re: Depression
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 9:37 am
by Taipan
I’m glad they did. Hopefully it shows people that anyone, no matter what their status in life is, can be affected by this condition.
Re: Depression
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:30 am
by gremlin
Yorick wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 5:47 pm
She's a lucky girl to have you
Fuck's sake....
Her boyfriend has just broke up with her.
Re: Depression
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 8:28 pm
by Silly Car
gremlin wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:30 am
Yorick wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 5:47 pm
She's a lucky girl to have you
Fuck's sake....
Her boyfriend has just broke up with her.
He was a prick, none of us, including you, ever liked him, definitely not good enough and if you bung KFB a few quid, he’ll make sure he’s never seen or heard from ever again.
Without doubt, the young gremlinette will need some time, love and support, but having seen my daughters flourish over recent years, both with their own world’s problems when they were growing up, she’ll get through it.