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Saga Lout wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 6:00 pm I've just had a parcel delivered by Evri. He knocked on the door and in the 10 to 15 seconds it took for me to get to the door and open it he was already back at his van, presumably hoping to claim it was undeliverable. Maybe they're on a tight schedule but they should at least wait for a few seconds after knocking on the door before running away.

At least yours got the right address. Multiple times the Evri clowns dump my stuff random places,take a photo,then inform me it's been delivered.

I dread them 'delivering' anything,they are the very worst of all the couriers by a long way.

Was on the Racetorx Facebook page and was asking if their throttle spacer kit was available for my Duke 690 as it wasn't listed in their drop-down. Got a response that the ones for 1290 KTMs fitted my bike. As there were no less than 6 1290 KTMs in the drop down list I asked again - which 1290? The response came back - Ask the Manufacturer.

I replied thus: So you don't represent Racetorx, you're just some random Internet guy who doesn't actually know the answer?

I thought that was quite polite, all things considered.

Skub wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 8:05 pm

Saga Lout wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 6:00 pm I've just had a parcel delivered by Evri. He knocked on the door and in the 10 to 15 seconds it took for me to get to the door and open it he was already back at his van, presumably hoping to claim it was undeliverable. Maybe they're on a tight schedule but they should at least wait for a few seconds after knocking on the door before running away.

At least yours got the right address. Multiple times the Evri clowns dump my stuff random places,take a photo,then inform me it's been delivered.

I dread them 'delivering' anything,they are the very worst of all the couriers by a long way.

Dude, I used to work for Bondelivery where Hermes, now Evri used their warehouse.

If you sent a ball of the hardest substance in the universe, wrapped up in Cobham armour, they'll find a way to damage it.

Anyway, what's pissing me off is those new lids on plastic bottles that stay attached. Its easier to drink out of the bottle if the lid comes off, and they are harder to close.

Bigjawa wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:56 pm Anyway, what's pissing me off is those new lids on plastic bottles that stay attached. Its easier to drink out of the bottle if the lid comes off, and they are harder to close.

I was thinking of having a rant about that, it winds me up as well. I pursued this with St Helens, who make the goat's milk I buy, and they said it was because of an EU directive. It's all about reducing plastic waste and recycling more. Apparently. Look up 'tethered closures' in Google.

So, for good or bad we've left the EU and we're still following directives? Does JRM know about this? Is this really 'taking back control?'

The other thing is that directives do not have legally binding force. The EU will push member states to apply the directive, but the member state can tell the EU to go forth and multiply.

So why the fuck?

mangocrazy wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:13 pm So why the fuck?

Because it's easier (cheaper ) to have one bottle type across a market region than two I suppose.

Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:22 pm

mangocrazy wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:13 pm So why the fuck?

Because it's easier (cheaper ) to have one bottle type across a market region than two I suppose.

But to the best of my knowledge, St Helens don't export to the EU.

So why the fuck?

Yeah but they probably don't have a bespoke bottle type just for them either.

Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:24 pm Yeah but they probably don't have a bespoke bottle type just for them either.

It's a cardboard Tetris type brick with St Helens decoration and aplastic screw on/off closure. I'm sure they buy in tons of branded containers from the manufacturer. So maybe the brick manufacturer is specifying the closure, but I'd say it's more likely that St Helens do. In which case they could request an old style screw cap, not the tethered variety.

It might be a jolly jape to email JRM coming over all Gammon to complain about our loss of sovereignty in this regard...

S'just the modern world of slim margins and global solutions innit?

"They" have probably done their sums are worked out it's cheaper to have one type of tooling rather than two. St. Helens, or whoever else, will of course have branding and colours of their own, but all the machines which make the caps/bottles/cartons and then handle them in the factory are common to thousands of brands using meeeeeelions of bottles abd cartons. It just ain't worth it for them to have "EU" and "UK" variants.

Expect this to be the norm, I think a few people might have mentioned this before brexit.

P.S. only a slob drinks direct from the carton anyway

Bigjawa wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:56 pm

Skub wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 8:05 pm

Saga Lout wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 6:00 pm I've just had a parcel delivered by Evri. He knocked on the door and in the 10 to 15 seconds it took for me to get to the door and open it he was already back at his van, presumably hoping to claim it was undeliverable. Maybe they're on a tight schedule but they should at least wait for a few seconds after knocking on the door before running away.

At least yours got the right address. Multiple times the Evri clowns dump my stuff random places,take a photo,then inform me it's been delivered.

I dread them 'delivering' anything,they are the very worst of all the couriers by a long way.

Dude, I used to work for Bondelivery where Hermes, now Evri used their warehouse.

If you sent a ball of the hardest substance in the universe, wrapped up in Cobham armour, they'll find a way to damage it.

Anyway, what's pissing me off is those new lids on plastic bottles that stay attached. Its easier to drink out of the bottle if the lid comes off, and they are harder to close.

We have them here.

I like those lids, they don't fall off and roll across the floor.

My bmp is vacuum packed mince that was also introduced to help the environment, I'm wondering if I can run the brick through a mincer to turn it back to mince.

Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:33 pm "They" have probably done their sums are worked out it's cheaper to have one type of tooling rather than two.

mangocrazy wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:30 pm It's a cardboard Tetris type brick with St Helens decoration and aplastic screw on/off closure. I'm sure they buy in tons of branded containers from the manufacturer. ... I'd say it's more likely that St Helens do. In which case they could request an old style screw cap

[Tetra Pak] net sales reached €12.5 billion in 2022. We sold 193 billion packages in 2022.

They don't make meagre profits by pandering to gammons

Righto, challenge accepted. I wouldn't normally have anything to do with an arrogant plum such as JRM, but I feel there may be some sport to be had in this...

No calls please, I'm in a strategy meeting...

Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:22 pm

mangocrazy wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:13 pm So why the fuck?

Because it's easier (cheaper ) to have one bottle type across a market region than two I suppose.

Because it makes them easier to recycle. I get some stuff in bottles where the lid does come off but they ask you to put the lids back on when you put them in the recycle bin. Sooooo, the recyclers are keen to keep them tethered where possible.

Count Steer wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:12 pm

Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:22 pm

mangocrazy wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:13 pm So why the fuck?

Because it's easier (cheaper ) to have one bottle type across a market region than two I suppose.

Because it makes them easier to recycle. I get some stuff in bottles where the lid does come off but they ask you to put the lids back on when you put them in the recycle bin. Sooooo, the recyclers are keen to keep them tethered where possible.

But who actually, deliberately separates the bottle and cap when recycling? The cardboard tetrapak that my milk comes in is rinsed, squashed flat (to save space in the recycling bin) and then the cap screwed back on to keep it flat. And if we're being really anal, the package is cardboard, the closure is plastic and the two parts should go in different recycling bins.

Count Steer wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:12 pm
Because it makes them easier to recycle. I get some stuff in bottles where the lid does come off but they ask you to put the lids back on when you put them in the recycle bin. Sooooo, the recyclers are keen to keep them tethered where possible.

Used to be 'scrunch them, takes less space' and 'lids are the wrong plastic' (some councils got uppity and refused lids-on bottles.

Now? All change!

mangocrazy wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:18 pmthe package is cardboard

Probably plastic-lined. Which recycling tub?

mangocrazy wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:18 pm

Count Steer wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:12 pm

Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:22 pm

Because it's easier (cheaper ) to have one bottle type across a market region than two I suppose.

Because it makes them easier to recycle. I get some stuff in bottles where the lid does come off but they ask you to put the lids back on when you put them in the recycle bin. Sooooo, the recyclers are keen to keep them tethered where possible.

But who actually, deliberately separates the bottle and cap when recycling? The cardboard tetrapak that my milk comes in is rinsed, squashed flat (to save space in the recycling bin) and then the cap screwed back on to keep it flat. And if we're being really anal, the package is cardboard, the closure is plastic and the two parts should go in different recycling bins.

Not in this neck of the woods they don't. I don't know how they do it but from what I've seen of AOs white goods recycling facility I imagine it all gets mashed up then the small bits get separated somehow!

(We used to have a bin at the recycling facility just for plastic lids but they stopped having one).

Horse wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:25 pm

mangocrazy wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:18 pmthe package is cardboard

Probably plastic-lined. Which recycling tub?

Metallised cardboard. But same dilemma...

Count Steer wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:26 pm Not in this neck of the woods they don't. I don't know how they do it but from what I've seen of AOs white goods recycling facility I imagine it all gets mashed up then the small bits get separated somehow!

(We used to have a bin at the recycling facility just for plastic lids but they stopped having one).

We have brown bins (cans, bottles, plastics), blue bins (paper and cardboard) and black bins (general household waste). But there is also a humunguous council-run incinerator less than a mile from us. I wonder what goes in there?