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Re: Hmmm. Wonder If it works both ways ?
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:57 pm
by melons
I didn't watch the show (I don't watch that kinda tv) but from the clips I've seen I didn't view it as overtly racist, I did think it ill judged & offensive for what is basically a childrens tv show, it was hardly Prokofievs Romeo & Juliet, more a re-enactment of a real murder of a human being. That, the one arm salutes/kneeling and the portrayal of the victim as an angel (yet again) before the US Court Jury hear & judge the whole legal case made it biased propaganda imo, not what you expect nor want to see a skewed political broadcast when you sit down with the kids to watch some family tv.
Re: Hmmm. Wonder If it works both ways ?
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:04 pm
by chillitt
For years it was save the whale. No one said 'what about all the other fish?'. Then Save the Amazon, No one said what about all the other rainforests?...
Re: Hmmm. Wonder If it works both ways ?
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:09 pm
by chutzpah
Based on average viewing figures for this show, 0.26% of those watching complained. People complain about TV and radio broadcasts all the time for a multitude of reasons, I'm not entirely sure what point is being made here
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/about-ofcom/la ... complaints
Re: Hmmm. Wonder If it works both ways ?
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:09 pm
by DefTrap
Only spastics are watching Saturday evening talent show nonsense anyway.
They get what they deserve.
Re: Hmmm. Wonder If it works both ways ?
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:12 pm
by KungFooBob
I watched it, cos I'm a spastic, but had no opinion at all about the whole performance. Maybe cos I'm a spastic.
Re: Hmmm. Wonder If it works both ways ?
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:17 pm
by weeksy
Lol really? Spastics, whitey, racism, equality.
All in 5 posts.
How the fuck do we see the rest of this shit show of a thread going?
Re: Hmmm. Wonder If it works both ways ?
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:21 pm
by KungFooBob
weeksy wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:17 pm
Lol really? Spastics, whitey, racism, equality.
All in 5 posts.
How the fuck do we see the rest of this shit show of a thread going?
I just need 'bumming' for a fullhouse on my card.
Re: Hmmm. Wonder If it works both ways ?
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:22 pm
by demographic
chillitt wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:04 pm
For years it was save the whale. No one said 'what about all the other fish?'.
Whales are mammals, as you know.
Re: Hmmm. Wonder If it works both ways ?
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:24 pm
by weeksy
Screwdriver wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:22 pm
Apparently it's all one way. Black lives matter, nobody else's.
I see censorship in these matters is not merely restricted to YouTube and Facebook.
I'm not censoring anything if that's where you're going with it. But this place is supposed to be a bit different to the old forum, a bit less argumentative, but you guys have to work with me a little at times
Re: Hmmm. Wonder If it works both ways ?
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:30 pm
by Saga Lout
KungFooBob wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:21 pm
weeksy wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:17 pm
Lol really? Spastics, whitey, racism, equality.
All in 5 posts.
How the fuck do we see the rest of this shit show of a thread going?
I just need 'bumming' for a fullhouse on my card.
Pedantry any good for you?
demographic wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:22 pm
chillitt wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:04 pm
For years it was save the whale. No one said 'what about all the other fish?'.
Whales are mammals, as you know.
Re: Hmmm. Wonder If it works both ways ?
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:41 pm
by demographic
Saga Lout wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:30 pm
Pedantry any good for you?
demographic wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:22 pm
chillitt wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:04 pm
For years it was save the whale. No one said 'what about all the other fish?'.
Whales are mammals, as you know.
I would hope that Chillitt could see through that, maybe I should have put a smilie in there just for you?
Re: Hmmm. Wonder If it works both ways ?
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:59 pm
by irie
weeksy wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:24 pm
Screwdriver wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:22 pm
Apparently it's all one way. Black lives matter, nobody else's.
I see censorship in these matters is not merely restricted to YouTube and Facebook.
I'm not censoring anything if that's where you're going with it. But this place is supposed to be a bit different to the old forum, a bit less argumentative, but you guys have to work with me a little at times
Because in the final analysis there are people who hold diametrically opposing views on everything there's always going to be argument. Enforcing rules of civility is one thing, but suppressing argument is by definition censorship. The fact is that just about anything can be interpreted by someone somewhere as offensive, so trying to prevent anyone being offended means that no opposing views can ever be argued.
imo.
Re: Hmmm. Wonder If it works both ways ?
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:00 pm
by weeksy
irie wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:59 pm
weeksy wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:24 pm
Screwdriver wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:22 pm
Apparently it's all one way. Black lives matter, nobody else's.
I see censorship in these matters is not merely restricted to YouTube and Facebook.
I'm not censoring anything if that's where you're going with it. But this place is supposed to be a bit different to the old forum, a bit less argumentative, but you guys have to work with me a little at times
Because in the final analysis there are people who hold diametrically opposing views on everything there's always going to be argument. Enforcing rules of civility is one thing, but suppressing argument is by definition censorship. The fact is that just about anything can be interpreted by someone somewhere as offensive, so trying to prevent anyone being offended means that no opposing views can ever be argued.
imo.
English?
Re: Hmmm. Wonder If it works both ways ?
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:07 pm
by irie
weeksy wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:00 pm
English?
Lost me there.
Re: Hmmm. Wonder If it works both ways ?
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:13 pm
by weeksy
irie wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:07 pm
weeksy wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:00 pm
English?
Lost me there.
Exactly.
You're making a point I think, but kinda made it next to impossible to work out.
What I felt you're getting at is, you can't please all the people.
I'm not trying to please everyone. But I'm not spending my time, money, effort etc just so people can be nasty.
It's perfectly possible to disagree on things without arguing.
It's possible to discuss sensitive subjects if done right.
Sure, I'll make mistakes here, but I'll stand by a moral compass and when it all goes wrong and you all say "I told you it would all turn to shit"
I'll look at you and say "don't look at me, you're the idiots who no longer have a forum"
Re: Hmmm. Wonder If it works both ways ?
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:26 pm
by irie
weeksy wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:13 pm
irie wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:07 pm
weeksy wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:00 pm
English?
Lost me there.
Exactly.
You're making a point I think, but kinda made it next to impossible to work out.
What I felt you're getting at is, you can't please all the people.
I'm not trying to please everyone. But I'm not spending my time, money, effort etc just so people can be nasty.
I said "Enforcing rules of civility is one thing".
It's perfectly possible to disagree on things without arguing.
Without argument there is merely a statement of opposing views.
It's possible to discuss sensitive subjects if done right.
Who decides what is sensitive? Personally, I don't believe anything is intrinsically sensitive, but as said in my post people can take offense at anything.
Sure, I'll make mistakes here, but I'll stand by a moral compass and when it all goes wrong and you all say "I told you it would all turn to shit"
I'll look at you and say "don't look at me, you're the idiots who no longer have a forum"
In my view only personal insults are not acceptable.
Re: Hmmm. Wonder If it works both ways ?
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:28 pm
by weeksy
Easiest question today.
I decide. Just me.
Re: Hmmm. Wonder If it works both ways ?
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:39 pm
by DefTrap
Apologies to anyone offended. Not.
I thought the OP was an ignorant comment on a nonsense subject. And replied in kind.
Oh well.
Re: Hmmm. Wonder If it works both ways ?
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:52 pm
by irie
DefTrap wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:39 pm
Apologies to anyone offended. Not.
I thought the OP was an ignorant comment on a nonsense subject. And replied in kind.
Oh well.
I have a quadraplegic granddaughter who can't even wipe her own arse. But I'm not offended by your use of the term "spastic" which of course applies to her. Just thoughtless use on your part.
Re: Hmmm. Wonder If it works both ways ?
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:57 pm
by weeksy
1888 wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:49 pm
weeksy wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:24 pm
I'm not censoring anything if that's where you're going with it. But this place is supposed to be a bit different to the old forum, a bit less argumentative, but you guys have to work with me a little at times
It is different. Folk asked more than once in the last place that politics had its own sub forum and meh was the answer. You provided the sub forum what is good and just leave them to get on with it. Cant say i am that bothered about them arguing as its not getting bounced in your fave like GM was. If folk dont like politics then stay the fuck out that section rather than calling them whining tossers.
I will, to an extent but you have to remember, this forum does not belong to 5 people, 20 people, it doesn't even belong to me, it belongs to everyone, it belongs to people who are yet to visit, yet to be aware of its existence. I know some people see if like you, they can post what they like, but no, they really can't
I'm trying to build a forum, a community, a spirit, I'm trying to bring back discussion forums lost to Twitter, Facebook and every other ranty jump up and down froth at the mouth form of social media.
I know that's a bit deep, but that's how it is.
Please note I said "not actively moderated all the time" that doesn't mean people have free reign to just post without consequences