New edition Motorcycle Roadcraft
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 12:11 pm
It's just been published. Does anyone have any views? - especially, I suppose, Spin and Horse, but also anyone else who knows the previous one....
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New edition Motorcycle Roadcraft
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Re: New edition Motorcycle Roadcraft
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 12:26 pm
Not purchased it yet was waiting on the second print when hopefully any errors have been corrected
Re: New edition Motorcycle Roadcraft
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 9:59 pm
Re: New edition Motorcycle Roadcraft
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 7:17 pm
If the rest of it remains the same, I don't think I'll be adding to the shelf,New to this edition
New advanced driver- and rider-assistance systems chapters (ADAS/ARAS) – describe common assistance features and explore how technology can support safer driving and riding.
Re: New edition Motorcycle Roadcraft
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 9:00 pm
Such as the error of bothering to print another edition?exportman wrote: Sat Nov 15, 2025 12:26 pm Not purchased it yet was waiting on the second print when hopefully any errors have been corrected
Re: New edition Motorcycle Roadcraft
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 9:30 pm
The Spin Doctor wrote: Sun Nov 16, 2025 7:17 pmIf the rest of it remains the same, I don't think I'll be adding to the shelf,New to this edition
New advanced driver- and rider-assistance systems chapters (ADAS/ARAS) – describe common assistance features and explore how technology can support safer driving and riding.
Readers can look forward to:
An updated modern design.
A revised overtaking chaper with separate sections on passing stationary vehicles, single stage overtakes and multi-stage overtakes.
New explanations of advanced concepts, such as limit points on left-hand bends.
Odd that 'new explanations' are needed. Unless they've included the implications of the 'Surprise Horizon' on blind (or partially) bends?Practical guidance – learn how reflective practice helps you improve your driving and riding skills with step-by-step advice.
Illustrated for clarity – packed with detailed diagrams that demonstrate key concepts including observation links, overtaking, positioning and limit points.
And 'Illustrated for clarity'? The new bloat version was first published in 1995. Has it really taken 30 years to decide that elements are confusing?
Re: New edition Motorcycle Roadcraft
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 10:13 pm
In the last version first print of the motorcycle book, things like when you arrive at a junction in poor visibility wind down your window to listen for traffic
Re: New edition Motorcycle Roadcraft
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2025 1:49 pm
This is cut and paste from the roadcraft.co.uk page:
"A revised overtaking chaper with separate sections on passing stationary vehicles, single stage overtakes and multi-stage overtakes."
Spot the error.
I wonder just how 'advanced' you can make passing a stopped vehicle. It's something riders are taught to do on CBT.
"A revised overtaking chaper with separate sections on passing stationary vehicles, single stage overtakes and multi-stage overtakes."
Spot the error.
I wonder just how 'advanced' you can make passing a stopped vehicle. It's something riders are taught to do on CBT.
Re: New edition Motorcycle Roadcraft
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2025 1:50 pm
Got a loud pipe? I've done it. Doubt I'd hear a Telsa though.exportman wrote: Sun Nov 16, 2025 10:13 pm In the last version first print of the motorcycle book, things like when you arrive at a junction in poor visibility wind down your window to listen for traffic
Re: New edition Motorcycle Roadcraft
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2025 1:54 pm
Appears to lead to the 2020 update.
Re: New edition Motorcycle Roadcraft
Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2026 2:19 pm
They didn’t have time to write a shorter and, therefore, clearer handbook. So, they wrote a longer book instead.
Unfortunately, it means that Motorcycle Roadcraft has gone from being helpful to unreadably bloated.
Unfortunately, it means that Motorcycle Roadcraft has gone from being helpful to unreadably bloated.
Re: New edition Motorcycle Roadcraft
Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2026 3:47 pm
The more explanation there is, the more advanced it is.The Spin Doctor wrote: Mon Nov 17, 2025 1:49 pm This is cut and paste from the roadcraft.co.uk page:
"A revised overtaking chaper with separate sections on passing stationary vehicles, single stage overtakes and multi-stage overtakes."
Spot the error.
I wonder just how 'advanced' you can make passing a stopped vehicle. It's something riders are taught to do on CBT.