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AS NEW: REVIVING A DUCATI MIKE HAILWOOD REPLICA

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:43 am
by weeksy

Re: AS NEW: REVIVING A DUCATI MIKE HAILWOOD REPLICA

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:50 am
by Nidge
So much yes!

Re: AS NEW: REVIVING A DUCATI MIKE HAILWOOD REPLICA

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:59 am
by Scotsrich
Lovely bike and a ton of work obviously went into it but why why why did they powder coat the frame instead of painting it.

Re: AS NEW: REVIVING A DUCATI MIKE HAILWOOD REPLICA

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:57 am
by Horse
Scotsrich wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:59 am why why why did they powder coat the frame instead of painting it.
Is it more resilient to knocks during reassembly?

Re: AS NEW: REVIVING A DUCATI MIKE HAILWOOD REPLICA

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:38 am
by Rockburner
Now that's a fantasy garage piece

Re: AS NEW: REVIVING A DUCATI MIKE HAILWOOD REPLICA

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:49 am
by Druid
That's lovely, one of my favourite bikes ever.

demo, sorry about the pod filters but the original didn't have an airbox anyway. My 900SS had bellmouths with a bit of wire mesh over the end.

Re: AS NEW: REVIVING A DUCATI MIKE HAILWOOD REPLICA

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:10 am
by demographic
For me, personally powdercoating a frame isn't always the best.
For a start it makes it a right pain in the arse if you later decide you want to move a bracket and just want to clean a bit of paint off, weld it on then painting that bit.
Inspecting a ferromagnetic frame for cracks can be done with magnetic particle testing through a bit of paint but as it gets thicker its not as effective and powdercoating is a usually a lot thicker.
Admittedly I don't think thats common on bike frames but it's possible.
Also powder coating can rust underneath it when it cracks or uncoated areas like where the engines mount, stone chips can be a place where salty water gets a real foothold and causes the powdercoating to come off in fair sized flakes. Check out 4wd bullbars and towhitches for that one.
Paint can but its simpler to repair.

Then theres the time spent sending it away where you can't work on the project, everyone has a local paint shop but not as many have a powdercoating shop just round the corner.

I think powdercoating has its place but I feel theres a good reason a lot of bike manufacturers still paint frames.

Re: AS NEW: REVIVING A DUCATI MIKE HAILWOOD REPLICA

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:17 am
by demographic
Druid wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:49 am That's lovely, one of my favourite bikes ever.

demo, sorry about the pod filters but the original didn't have an airbox anyway. My 900SS had bellmouths with a bit of wire mesh over the end.

Hell, I never even noticed the pods but as you say a few bike never even came with filters in the first place.
What gets on my tits is when the builder launches the mudguards, the airbox the and the filter in the skip and theres a straight line of sight from the rear tyre and the inlet side of the carb for water/crap/dust to shoot into the engine.
Even more so on modern bikes where a rebore involves re-nicasil coating the bores instead of ambling into the local precision engineering shop with a new oversize piston, the cylinder and some cash.

Re: AS NEW: REVIVING A DUCATI MIKE HAILWOOD REPLICA

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:23 pm
by Mr. Dazzle
demographic wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:17 am What gets on my tits is when the builder launches the mudguards, the airbox the and the filter in the skip and theres a straight line of sight from the rear tyre and the inlet side of the carb for water/crap/dust to shoot into the engine.
On the plus side however, when you're not sure if the bike is running lean on one side you can reach down and covet the bellmouth a bit with your hand. :thumbup:

Re: AS NEW: REVIVING A DUCATI MIKE HAILWOOD REPLICA

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:11 pm
by demographic
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:23 pm covet the bellmouth a bit with your hand. :thumbup:
The 11th commandment "thou shalt not covet thy neighbours belmouth"

Another way is to pull the choke to richen the mixture.

Re: AS NEW: REVIVING A DUCATI MIKE HAILWOOD REPLICA

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:15 pm
by Le_Fromage_Grande
It looks nice
I'm not a fan of powder coated frames, it's too thick and scratches too easily, but it's a hell of a lot cheaper than getting a frame sprayed properly.

Re: AS NEW: REVIVING A DUCATI MIKE HAILWOOD REPLICA

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:38 pm
by Pirahna
A friend has one, and a mint black 70's 900SS, and MK1 Le Mans.

Re: AS NEW: REVIVING A DUCATI MIKE HAILWOOD REPLICA

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:49 pm
by demographic
We often gravitate towards something we lusted after at an impressionable age so this Ducati is one I like.

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Re: AS NEW: REVIVING A DUCATI MIKE HAILWOOD REPLICA

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:11 pm
by Druid
demographic wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:11 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:23 pm covet the bellmouth a bit with your hand. :thumbup:
The 11th commandment "thou shalt not covet thy neighbours belmouth"

Another way is to pull the choke to richen the mixture.
There's no choke on those Dell'ortos. You had to tickle the carbs until they flooded then jump on the kickstart and hope.

Re: AS NEW: REVIVING A DUCATI MIKE HAILWOOD REPLICA

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:21 pm
by demographic
Druid wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:11 pm There's no choke on those Dell'ortos. You had to tickle the carbs until they flooded then jump on the kickstart and hope.
Ahh, fair enough.
The only time I remember anyone having to tickle a carb was my much older brothers Triumphs and I have no idea what carbs they had.

One brother must have pushed his Triumph further than he rode it and another brothers Triumph took him to Nordcap and back with no issues.

Re: AS NEW: REVIVING A DUCATI MIKE HAILWOOD REPLICA

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:01 am
by DEADPOOL
Catastrophically ugly machine. Thank goodness for Massimo Tamburini.

Re: AS NEW: REVIVING A DUCATI MIKE HAILWOOD REPLICA

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:28 am
by Nidge
DEADPOOL wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:01 am Catastrophically ugly machine. Thank goodness for Massimo Tamburini.
That’s possibly your most contentious post....

Re: AS NEW: REVIVING A DUCATI MIKE HAILWOOD REPLICA

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:04 am
by Mr. Dazzle
demographic wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:21 pm
Druid wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:11 pm There's no choke on those Dell'ortos. You had to tickle the carbs until they flooded then jump on the kickstart and hope.
Ahh, fair enough.
The only time I remember anyone having to tickle a carb was my much older brothers Triumphs and I have no idea what carbs they had.

One brother must have pushed his Triumph further than he rode it and another brothers Triumph took him to Nordcap and back with no issues.
The Amals on the Bonneville do have chokes, but like a lot of people my FiL removed them.

Re: AS NEW: REVIVING A DUCATI MIKE HAILWOOD REPLICA

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:09 am
by Nidge
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:04 am
demographic wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:21 pm
Druid wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:11 pm There's no choke on those Dell'ortos. You had to tickle the carbs until they flooded then jump on the kickstart and hope.
Ahh, fair enough.
The only time I remember anyone having to tickle a carb was my much older brothers Triumphs and I have no idea what carbs they had.

One brother must have pushed his Triumph further than he rode it and another brothers Triumph took him to Nordcap and back with no issues.
The Amals on the Bonneville do have chokes, but like a lot of people my FiL removed them.
Strictly speaking they have an air slide rather than a choke- but yes removing them and plugging the hole where the cable enters is pretty common practice

Re: AS NEW: REVIVING A DUCATI MIKE HAILWOOD REPLICA

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:37 am
by GuzziPaul
Pirahna wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:38 pm A friend has one, and a mint black 70's 900SS, and MK1 Le Mans.
Thats a high value garage there. I've always thought of a MH replica to be a 900SS in a different froc and slightly more affodable. I've put pod filters onto my Le Mans asthe wire mesh on the original bellmouths are only good for stopping small children and birds been sucked in.

I do like this MH rebuild, although do think it's more for looking at rather than riding.