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Which one?

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 10:48 am
by Noggin
Slightly pie in the sky question as no idea if I can get a bike this year, but -

Which one and why?

MT-10 or Z1000 ??

I have loved the Z1000 for years but never sat on one, fell in love with the MT-10 last summer but again, haven't sat on one - so even if money magically falls at me, I don't know if I can actually ride either!! LOL

But, what would you do?

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Re: Which one?

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 11:02 am
by KungFooBob
Panigale.

Re: Which one?

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 11:09 am
by DefTrap
A pink one obviously.
With stabilisers.

Re: Which one?

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 11:11 am
by Yorick
DefTrap wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 11:09 am A pink one obviously.
With stabilisers.
And a little hook for the handbag.

Re: Which one?

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 11:30 am
by Skub
Well duh. :lol:

That's the earlier Z1000R,you need one like mine with kool kidz kans. :thumbup:

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The Yam has moar horses than the Kawa,so has the top end advantage,which in all honesty,on a naked bike is little more than bragging rights.

The Zed R has decent suspension,you need to go for the SP model of MT for anything trick.

The Zed will be a little better with mpg,if it matters.

The MT has all the usual rider aids,the Zed has ABS and nothing else.

The Yamaha is a more modern bike than the Kawasaki and the MT is now considered long in the tooth in it's class. The Kawa doesn't even get tested any longer,since it's no longer available to buy new.

As far as tooshing about is concerned,it's a case of which you fancy.

Re: Which one?

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 11:34 am
by KungFooBob
The Yam has a cross plane crank so sounds fickin' awesome when you open the taps.

Re: Which one?

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:29 pm
by Ant
Z1000 everyday. Will probably be my next bike if it's not a speed triple r.

Re: Which one?

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:33 pm
by Le_Fromage_Grande
The Z900 in limited edition Firecracker Red
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But the Suzuki GSXS range is better looking than the Kawasaki and Yamaha offerings and better value

Re: Which one?

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:47 pm
by Skub
Yorick wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 11:11 am
DefTrap wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 11:09 am A pink one obviously.
With stabilisers.
And a little hook for the handbag.
Just like TinPot. :thumbup:

Re: Which one?

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:52 pm
by MingtheMerciless
Either so long as they don't have a brown seat.

Kwacker but then I'm biased.

Re: Which one?

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 4:55 pm
by Demannu
Yamahas of late tend to have quite high saddles, the new stuff is better, but the last few mt/xsr were 30"+ on the inseam, and you ain't!

Re: Which one?

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 5:09 pm
by Tigs
I was eying up a Ninja 400 (as a first big bike) how do you work out if the lean is right - and why do they have to be that manky green colour?!

Re: Which one?

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 6:15 pm
by Le_Fromage_Grande
This is why Kawasaki's are green
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Re: Which one?

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 6:34 pm
by Dodgy69
MT all day long, but some of the colours can be frightening. 🙂

Re: Which one?

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 6:44 pm
by dern
Mt looks amazing, Kawasaki looks like someone sat on the front.

Re: Which one?

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 6:46 pm
by weeksy
I've ridden 2 MT10s and honestly the first one was absolutely astounding. Just an awesome machine.

The 2nd was not quite as awesome but I was riding @Tricky s bike he'd just recently bought, at Pembrey ☺️

Re: Which one?

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:25 am
by Noggin
DefTrap wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 11:09 am A pink one obviously.
With stabilisers.
Obviously, although I have proved in the past that any bike can be pink :angelic-green:

Yorick wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 11:11 am
DefTrap wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 11:09 am A pink one obviously.
With stabilisers.
And a little hook for the handbag.
That’s overkill - I just need it to have a metal tank for my magnetic mini tank/handbag :angelic-green: :angelic-green:
Skub wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 11:30 am Well duh. :lol:

That's the earlier Z1000R,you need one like mine with kool kidz kans. :thumbup:

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The Yam has moar horses than the Kawa,so has the top end advantage,which in all honesty,on a naked bike is little more than bragging rights.

The Zed R has decent suspension,you need to go for the SP model of MT for anything trick.

The Zed will be a little better with mpg,if it matters.

The MT has all the usual rider aids,the Zed has ABS and nothing else.

The Yamaha is a more modern bike than the Kawasaki and the MT is now considered long in the tooth in it's class. The Kawa doesn't even get tested any longer,since it's no longer available to buy new.

As far as tooshing about is concerned,it's a case of which you fancy.
TBH, I had my heart set on the MT but your photos reminded me how much I have admired and wanted a big Z for Years n Years!!! :wub:
KungFooBob wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 11:34 am The Yam has a cross plane crank so sounds fickin' awesome when you open the taps.
I do need to go and actually hear one!! I’ve only ridden the MT07 but that was pretty impressive! I know the engine is different in the 10. Someone told me it was an R1 engine??
I love thé look and two mates that have them bloody love them, so, being a bit of a brat and wanting a proper big bike again (and one that doesn’t hurt my shoulder with the vibrations!!) I am drawn to the 10!!
Demannu wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 4:55 pm Yamahas of late tend to have quite high saddles, the new stuff is better, but the last few mt/xsr were 30"+ on the inseam, and you ain't!
LOL. The Monster is the first bike I’ve ever had that I’ve been able to get both feet on the ground!! Not only on the ground, but feet flat and knees bent - it’s proper weird!!!

If the rising position ‘fits’ I’m not worried about seat height - well, as long as I can actually get on it, unlike SSD’s KTM I tried to sit on :lol: :lol:

Re: Which one?

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:30 am
by MrLongbeard
Not the Z, it looks like someone has given a handlebar croggy to a large friend and they've slipped off knackering the headlight nacelle.

Re: Which one?

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:33 am
by Noggin
Tigs wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 5:09 pm I was eying up a Ninja 400 (as a first big bike) how do you work out if the lean is right - and why do they have to be that manky green colour?!
:o Manky?? How very dare you??!! :lol: Although a ‘maté did call my ZX10 the KawaSnotty :( :(

Dodgy69 wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 6:34 pm MT all day long, but some of the colours can be frightening. 🙂
You’re saying that to the girl that had a very very PINK Blackbird :angelic-green:

weeksy wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 6:46 pm I've ridden 2 MT10s and honestly the first one was absolutely astounding. Just an awesome machine.

The 2nd was not quite as awesome but I was riding @Tricky s bike he'd just recently bought, at Pembrey ☺️
Your response to the first one is what I’ve heard from my friends with them. Really must go try one!!



MPG probably isn’t a massive issue - probably not fit to do massive miles this year and TBF, if i am, I’d rather put fuel in the bike that go for drinks or meals out!! I’ve missed biking so very much that I’ll be on cheap meals at home and buying lots of fuel!! :lol: (in all honesty, it’ll be the same with the Monster once I get the registration sorted, just won’t be able to ride that quite as often as an IL4!!!)

Re: Which one?

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2023 12:44 pm
by Noggin
Having another look at the photos on a proper sized screen and I suspect the answer will be the riding position!! I reckon the bars on the Z1000 will be too low :( :(

But I will set up a test ride on the two in May, just cos, well, why not!! LOL :lol: :lol: :lol: