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Paddock stand recommendation
Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:15 pm
by Mr Moofo
I bought an Oxford Premium stand , which seems to be best recommended paddock stand everywhere.
Mine is okay - using the cups it just about lifts the rear of the speedy - but not really enough to rotate the rear wheel cleanly.
On the Scrambler, it lifts the bike with a few degrees lilt to the left. The left leg appears to bend in - it's not - it is where the leg joins the handle, it rotates inwards, despite being torqued up correctly. It doesn't appear to do the same under load on the right. But you can rotate the right leg to match. So on the cups the force is being held by the drilled holes and the bolts.
If I use the track bobbins on the Scrambler, they seem to hold every in place - and it lifts as it should do.
I have arranged to send it back to Sportsbikeshop - who have said they are happy to refund.
Am I worrying too much ( and should just use the bobbins on the Scram) and should I just use it ( its a PITA to send back)
Or am I right to worry about the bike toppling over?
Anyone have any other suggestions?
Re: Paddock stand recommendation
Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:18 pm
by KungFooBob
ABBA, innit.
Re: Paddock stand recommendation
Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:21 pm
by Mr Moofo
I have an ABBA - can be used on the old Speedy
But can't be used on the 1200 Scrambler
Re: Paddock stand recommendation
Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:23 pm
by KungFooBob
Is it not a matter of getting the right fittings, or is the Scrambler too high to lift the wheels if you use the swingarm pivot?
Re: Paddock stand recommendation
Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:27 pm
by Mr Moofo
KungFooBob wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:23 pm
Is it not a matter of getting the right fittings, or is the Scrambler too high to lift the wheels if you use the swingarm pivot?
It's too high ...
Quite used to the mix and match approach to fittings
Re: Paddock stand recommendation
Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:30 pm
by KungFooBob
Bit Heath Robinson, but could you put some blocks or something under the ABBA where it pivots to lift it up a bit?
Re: Paddock stand recommendation
Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:41 pm
by Mr Moofo
KungFooBob wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:30 pm
Bit Heath Robinson, but could you put some blocks or something under the ABBA where it pivots to lift it up a bit?
I had thought of that - in fact, I had cut some blocks ... must go and find them
Re: Paddock stand recommendation
Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:59 pm
by Skub
If you are set on a paddock stand,I've used a Harris front and rear for years. Good quality kit,though I don't know how much they are now.
Re: Paddock stand recommendation
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 6:05 am
by Le_Fromage_Grande
The best paddock stand I have is an old Micron one, much better than the Oxford one I also have.
Re: Paddock stand recommendation
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 8:55 am
by mangocrazy
Skub wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:59 pm
If you are set on a paddock stand,I've used a Harris front and rear for years. Good quality kit,though I don't know how much they are now.
I have the Harris front stand that locates under (and inside) the headstock and it is without doubt the best engineered stand I've ever used. Just change the insert pin and it's been used on at least 5 different bikes I've owned.
Re: Paddock stand recommendation
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 11:18 am
by dern
Mr Moofo wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:15 pm
I bought an Oxford Premium stand , which seems to be best recommended paddock stand everywhere.
Mine is okay - using the cups it just about lifts the rear of the speedy - but not really enough to rotate the rear wheel cleanly.
On the Scrambler, it lifts the bike with a few degrees lilt to the left. The left leg appears to bend in - it's not - it is where the leg joins the handle, it rotates inwards, despite being torqued up correctly. It doesn't appear to do the same under load on the right. But you can rotate the right leg to match. So on the cups the force is being held by the drilled holes and the bolts.
If I use the track bobbins on the Scrambler, they seem to hold every in place - and it lifts as it should do.
I have arranged to send it back to Sportsbikeshop - who have said they are happy to refund.
Am I worrying too much ( and should just use the bobbins on the Scram) and should I just use it ( its a PITA to send back)
Or am I right to worry about the bike toppling over?
Anyone have any other suggestions?
I have the oxford premiums and don't think that much of them. Every time I use them I keep meaning to get the welder out and weld the legs to the handle because of the same issue but I never get around to it.
I would definitely use bobbins rather than cups with paddock stands though, its a lot more stable.
Re: Paddock stand recommendation
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 11:22 am
by v8-powered
As per the big cheesey bloke, my favourites used to be Micron and Champion. The Champion stand I liked most because it was wider than average and kept the bike very stable
Re: Paddock stand recommendation
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 11:29 am
by ChrisW
I have one of the box section ones. It's great.
https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorc ... prod/92414
I don't the type that have the handle/legs split & bolted together in line, don't see the need unless it's for easy storage purposes.
Re: Paddock stand recommendation
Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:28 am
by Mr Moofo
That looks pretty good - if it can be used with cups as well
The split handle thing really didn’t work - allowing the two support arms to rotate in , when on cups. So stress on the bolts holding it together and an un-nerving cup angle one side
Re: Paddock stand recommendation
Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 3:04 pm
by the_priest
ABBA stand for my SP3. No solution for the Scrambler other than a bigger stand with adjustable arms.
Re: Paddock stand recommendation
Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 6:06 pm
by MingtheMerciless
Harris stand for the rear or ABBA stand for shock or front end jobs.
Re: Paddock stand recommendation
Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 7:03 pm
by ChrisW
Mr Moofo wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:28 am
That looks pretty good - if it can be used with cups as well
The split handle thing really didn’t work - allowing the two support arms to rotate in , when on cups. So stress on the bolts holding it together and an un-nerving cup angle one side
Didn't see this before replying on the other paddock stand thread - yes I'm sure you can get cups for it. I use mine for both but I made a set of cups that slip onto the other end of the square rod the hooks are on.
Re: Paddock stand recommendation
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2023 5:25 am
by wull
As Skub I’ve used Harris front and rear paddock stands for years, I also use the Harris yoke stand.
You won’t go wrong with them, maybe more expensive than others but worth it.
The only decent pics I can find.
