Recommend me a 240v multitool
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Recommend me a 240v multitool
My beaten up old Bosch PMF180 240v multitool is getting ready to shit its pants. It's vibrating like a bastard and smoking 20 Marlboro a day. So I need to find a successor. I'm not interested in top end of the market (i.e. Fein and the like) but want a good quality, reliable piece of kit for not silly amounts of money. I'm agnostic regarding brands, but I'm not interested in Aldi/Lidl cheapies, as I've had bad experiences with them in the past.
Oh yes, nothing cordless - good old 240v for me.
Waddya got?
Oh yes, nothing cordless - good old 240v for me.
Waddya got?
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Re: Recommend me a 240v multitool
Buy another Bosch one, what you've described is pretty much Bosch territory, I've got a cheap one, can't remember the brand, but it works.
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Re: Recommend me a 240v multitool
Jeez, I must have been pissed last night, my first post is NSFW btw.
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Re: Recommend me a 240v multitool
I was looking at the 'green' Bosch (PMF 220) as my earlier example of that model had put up a fair bit of abuse, but in the end went for a DeWalt - the catchily named DWE315SF-GB. It's got a 300w motor (compared to the Bosch's 220w) and doesn't force you to use the Starlock plus tool mounting system, which all current Bosch models do. This means I can use all my current accessories on the DW. And the kicker was that I got it for about the same price (£77) as the Bosch.
When it arrives and I've had a chance to use it, I'll post up some impressions.
When it arrives and I've had a chance to use it, I'll post up some impressions.
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Re: Recommend me a 240v multitool
That's ok until the next blue moon job is in five years time and the battery is kackered.
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Re: Recommend me a 240v multitool
I've never felt the need for a cordless multi tool, and I've never been in a situation where I couldn't use corded. If I had gone cordless, it would have narrowed my options to Hitachi (Hikoki) and blue Bosch as I'm certainly not about to start on a third battery platform. Bosch are out, as I don't want to go Starlock and I can't remember the last time I ever saw a Hitachi cordless multitool for sensible money.
My usage profile is almost entirely indoors or outdoors where mains power is readily available, so there's no real driver for cordless. And cordless tools inevitably weigh more than corded, especially with higher Ah batteries, so that's another minus point.
Corded for the win! (And I'm a cheapskate...)
My usage profile is almost entirely indoors or outdoors where mains power is readily available, so there's no real driver for cordless. And cordless tools inevitably weigh more than corded, especially with higher Ah batteries, so that's another minus point.
Corded for the win! (And I'm a cheapskate...)
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Re: Recommend me a 240v multitool
I think you mean 'service' life. Leave any cordless battery for even 2 years without charge and it will almost certainly be toast,Screwdriver wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:27 pm [Modern LiPo batteries have a very long shelf life. Ten years plus, same battery type as found in Teslas.
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Re: Recommend me a 240v multitool
My expensive battery lawn mower didn't come with a maintaining charger, just 2 batteries and a fast charger. The first battery was dead after the first winter and the other battery was reduced to five minutes use after 5 years. Not great when replacements are over £100 each.
Made me wish I'd bought petrol.
Made me wish I'd bought petrol.
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Re: Recommend me a 240v multitool
It's always a source of amusement/bemusement to me when I explain the reasons for a decision I've made (in my case that I'm never far from mains power, plus I appreciate the lighter weight of a corded tool), and the other party disregards my reasons and suggests I use their requirements (which are always very different to mine) as a basis for my purchase...
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Re: Recommend me a 240v multitool
OK, glad you've noticed the thread title.
I also reinforced the point in the first post:
When asking for recommendations I was asking for make/model suggestions, not whether I should go cordless or not.
If Hitachi had a model of cordless multitool that cost significantly less than £200 bare (!) I might have considered it, as I have 4 Hitachi/Hikokl batteries currently in service, but they don't so I didn't.
Anyway, the die is cast, the cash has been splashed and I'm looking forward to getting my hands on it...
I also reinforced the point in the first post:
I'd also make the point that I didn't say you 'insisted' - I said you 'suggested'; very different tone.
When asking for recommendations I was asking for make/model suggestions, not whether I should go cordless or not.
If Hitachi had a model of cordless multitool that cost significantly less than £200 bare (!) I might have considered it, as I have 4 Hitachi/Hikokl batteries currently in service, but they don't so I didn't.
Anyway, the die is cast, the cash has been splashed and I'm looking forward to getting my hands on it...
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Re: Recommend me a 240v multitool
mangocrazy wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:05 pm I was looking at the 'green' Bosch (PMF 220) as my earlier example of that model had put up a fair bit of abuse, but in the end went for a DeWalt - the catchily named DWE315SF-GB. It's got a 300w motor (compared to the Bosch's 220w) and doesn't force you to use the Starlock plus tool mounting system, which all current Bosch models do. This means I can use all my current accessories on the DW. And the kicker was that I got it for about the same price (£77) as the Bosch.
When it arrives and I've had a chance to use it, I'll post up some impressions.
I have the DeWalt DWE315KT. I guess it's pretty much the same model as yours but labelled differently for this market.
Sometimes it's the only tool for the job and mine is mostly used for boat stuff - the last time I used it was to cut some fins off the bottom of a SUP, I was replacing them so a flush cut was ideal. I mostly use it for cutting large holes in vertical boat panels (to provide better access) and it's good at that. The triangular sander attachment is also a good addition for getting into corners - I have a B & D mouse sander and that's often the wrong shape for small spaces.
I considered a battery version when I was buying but I usually have 220V on hand and this was on offer at a very good price, about the same as you paid, so I snapped it up.
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Re: Recommend me a 240v multitool
Yambo, yours was a very very good price, as it's for the kit including lots of accessories. Mine was just the tool in a box with a couple of blades.
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Re: Recommend me a 240v multitool
Yeah, it's one of those tools that when you need it, no other tool is a substitute. And blade life is the killer. Project Farm on Youtube did a blade comparison test and some brand that is only available in the US (EZARC) came out best.
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Re: Recommend me a 240v multitool
Just checked and Amazon UK sell EZARC blades, so may try a pack.
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Re: Recommend me a 240v multitool
mangocrazy wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:46 am Yambo, yours was a very very good price, as it's for the kit including lots of accessories. Mine was just the tool in a box with a couple of blades.
I checked and must apologise, I bought it in 2021 and with the rate of exchange then was £92. Still got a good deal though!
