revtothelimit - motorbike forum

This isn't for a bike, rather it's for a replacement generator at a vacant site. As such, work is paying, not me and it's needed pretty quickly - i.e. off the shelf/next day delivery which I'm sure rules out Almax. Original generator was stolen (whilst the dog unit was on site!) so am thinking of chaining the replacement one to a lamp post.

Thanks.

I have an Almax - bought years ago, when Zanx was the voice of Almax. Dunno about now, but then their customer and delivery service was woeful, they had no real idea what they were sending and when.
However, once it arrived the chain and lock are very good - and extremely heavy.

Delivery is slow and the chain won't stand up to an angle grinder. Guess how I know that.

Mr Moofo wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:36 pm I have an Almax - bought years ago, when Zanx was the voice of Almax. Dunno about now, but then their customer and delivery service was woeful, they had no real idea what they were sending and when.
However, once it arrived the chain and lock are very good - and extremely heavy.

Thanks. I'd happily keep with Almax and if this was for one of my bikes I'd probably just waiting it out but my experience of their customer service (last year - buying a chain sleeve) was, as you say, woeful.

Dunxster wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:11 pm Delivery is slow and the chain won't stand up to an angle grinder. Guess how I know that.

TBF, I doubt any chain on the market would be able to withstand a grinder.

Dig a hole.
Drop a pole into concrete.
Weld the genny to the pole.

Beancounter wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:17 pm

Dunxster wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:11 pm Delivery is slow and the chain won't stand up to an angle grinder. Guess how I know that.

TBF, I doubt any chain on the market would be able to withstand a grinder.

Don't know whether they'll go around a lamppost, but two Hiplocks might do it (if available).

Check the Bennets Social review.

Horse wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 6:20 pm

Beancounter wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:17 pm

Dunxster wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:11 pm Delivery is slow and the chain won't stand up to an angle grinder. Guess how I know that.

TBF, I doubt any chain on the market would be able to withstand a grinder.

Don't know whether they'll go around a lamppost, but two Hiplocks might do it (if available).

Check the Bennets Social review.

I've just pledged cash to the Hiplock dx1000 kickstarter. First time I've done kickstarter anything. The D1000 locks get great reviews and the DX model is motorcycle specific. It's not out until after April next year though for the first deliveries. Bloody expensive but hopefully puts the little shitbags off a bit. Also have an Almax chain so may well try and see if I can use both together. Have a disklock as well.

I guess none of them are totally secure, but it's just about slowing them down or suggesting they go somewhere else.

Liteloks and Pragmasis chains also seem to be highly rated.

Had a long chat at their stand. The 'ground anchor' and U Lock combo looks really simple to use.

No chain will hold off an angle grinder, even Alex at Almax will tell you that and even how long one his chains will last against one. Almax has never expanded into an efficient business and filling orders takes time, but they are still the market leader for chains I believe?

Those litelock D locks are supposed to be good against angle grinders. Eventually go through but take more than 1 disc in tests I've seen.

Supermofo wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:02 pm Those litelock D locks are supposed to be good against angle grinders. Eventually go through but take more than 1 disc in tests I've seen.

On Bennetts Social video, it took 3 for a full cut through, with 2 full cuts to be able to remove the lock from the wheel.

Horse wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2023 6:36 pm

Supermofo wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:02 pm Those litelock D locks are supposed to be good against angle grinders. Eventually go through but take more than 1 disc in tests I've seen.

On Bennetts Social video, it took 3 for a full cut through, with 2 full cuts to be able to remove the lock from the wheel.

That must have been the one I watched, I couldn't search earlier as was busy.

A litelock saved Freddie Dobbs' Bonnie from being stolen last week too. You could see where they had attacked it with an angle grinder and it hadn't touched it beyond shredding the outer rubber.

Supermofo wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:02 pm Those litelock D locks are supposed to be good against angle grinders. Eventually go through but take more than 1 disc in tests I've seen.

Aren't the cylinder locks easy to pick? Or is that summat else?

Supermofo wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2023 7:09 pm A litelock saved Freddie Dobbs' Bonnie from being stolen last week too. You could see where they had attacked it with an angle grinder and it hadn't touched it beyond shredding the outer rubber.

I'm not convinced that wasn't chewed on by a hungry seagull rather than attached.
I'm not doubting the performance of the lock but that had only been tickled with a grinder not a proper attack, maybe the thief was using grinding discs instead of cut off wheels, or they were disturbed or their battery went flat

Horse wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2023 6:36 pm

Supermofo wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:02 pm Those litelock D locks are supposed to be good against angle grinders. Eventually go through but take more than 1 disc in tests I've seen.

On Bennetts Social video, it took 3 for a full cut through, with 2 full cuts to be able to remove the lock from the wheel.

???
I've just watched the Litelok X1 & X3 video he did it in one disc? , the Hiplock took 2.5.

MrLongbeard wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2023 7:46 pm

Horse wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2023 6:36 pm

Supermofo wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:02 pm Those litelock D locks are supposed to be good against angle grinders. Eventually go through but take more than 1 disc in tests I've seen.

On Bennetts Social video, it took 3 for a full cut through, with 2 full cuts to be able to remove the lock from the wheel.

???
I've just watched the Litelok X1 & X3 video he did it in one disc? , the Hiplock took 2.5.

MrLongbeard wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2023 7:46 pm

Horse wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2023 6:36 pm

Supermofo wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:02 pm Those litelock D locks are supposed to be good against angle grinders. Eventually go through but take more than 1 disc in tests I've seen.

On Bennetts Social video, it took 3 for a full cut through, with 2 full cuts to be able to remove the lock from the wheel.

???
I've just watched the Litelok X1 & X3 video he did it in one disc? , the Hiplock took 2.5.

This video?
4.40 mins on X1 review he says it took 1.5 discs. 12.30 mins he says 4 discs for the X3.

Supermofo wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:54 pm
4.40 mins on X1 review he says it took 1.5 discs. 12.30 mins he says 4 discs for the X3.

Fair do's, I gave up at 6:45 where he says he got through the first in 1 disc

Horse wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:18 pm

MrLongbeard wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2023 7:46 pm

Horse wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2023 6:36 pm

On Bennetts Social video, it took 3 for a full cut through, with 2 full cuts to be able to remove the lock from the wheel.

???
I've just watched the Litelok X1 & X3 video he did it in one disc? , the Hiplock took 2.5.

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So yes then, the Hiplock not the Litelok