New edition Motorcycle Roadcraft

[Wossname]

It's just been published. Does anyone have any views? - especially, I suppose, Spin and Horse, but also anyone else who knows the previous one....

[exportman]

Not purchased it yet was waiting on the second print when hopefully any errors have been corrected

[Horse]

https://emergencyservicestimes.com/2025 ... -training/

https://www.roadcraft.co.uk/about/news/ ... roadcraft/

[The Spin Doctor]

New to this edition
New advanced driver- and rider-assistance systems chapters (ADAS/ARAS) – describe common assistance features and explore how technology can support safer driving and riding.

If the rest of it remains the same, I don't think I'll be adding to the shelf,

[Skub]

Not purchased it yet was waiting on the second print when hopefully any errors have been corrected

Such as the error of bothering to print another edition?

[Horse]

New to this edition
New advanced driver- and rider-assistance systems chapters (ADAS/ARAS) – describe common assistance features and explore how technology can support safer driving and riding.

If the rest of it remains the same, I don't think I'll be adding to the shelf,

Readers can look forward to:

An updated modern design.
A revised overtaking chaper with separate sections on passing stationary vehicles, single stage overtakes and multi-stage overtakes.
New explanations of advanced concepts, such as limit points on left-hand bends.

Practical guidance – learn how reflective practice helps you improve your driving and riding skills with step-by-step advice.

Illustrated for clarity – packed with detailed diagrams that demonstrate key concepts including observation links, overtaking, positioning and limit points.

Odd that 'new explanations' are needed. Unless they've included the implications of the 'Surprise Horizon' on blind (or partially) bends?

And 'Illustrated for clarity'? The new bloat version was first published in 1995. Has it really taken 30 years to decide that elements are confusing?

[exportman]

Not purchased it yet was waiting on the second print when hopefully any errors have been corrected

Such as the error of bothering to print another edition?

In the last version first print of the motorcycle book, things like when you arrive at a junction in poor visibility wind down your window to listen for traffic

[The Spin Doctor]

This is cut and paste from the roadcraft.co.uk page:

"A revised overtaking chaper with separate sections on passing stationary vehicles, single stage overtakes and multi-stage overtakes."

Spot the error.

I wonder just how 'advanced' you can make passing a stopped vehicle. It's something riders are taught to do on CBT.

[The Spin Doctor]

In the last version first print of the motorcycle book, things like when you arrive at a junction in poor visibility wind down your window to listen for traffic

Got a loud pipe? I've done it. Doubt I'd hear a Telsa though.

[The Spin Doctor]

https://www.roadcraft.co.uk/about/news/ ... roadcraft/

Appears to lead to the 2020 update.

[Hot_Air]

They didn’t have time to write a shorter and, therefore, clearer handbook. So, they wrote a longer book instead.

Unfortunately, it means that Motorcycle Roadcraft has gone from being helpful to unreadably bloated.

[Rockburner]

This is cut and paste from the roadcraft.co.uk page:

"A revised overtaking chaper with separate sections on passing stationary vehicles, single stage overtakes and multi-stage overtakes."

Spot the error.

I wonder just how 'advanced' you can make passing a stopped vehicle. It's something riders are taught to do on CBT.

The more explanation there is, the more advanced it is.