Page 7 of 9
Re: Shadow foam toolbox/case
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:44 pm
by Silly Car
weeksy wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:01 am
Needs some of this
Would now be an appropriate time to mention I can currently get 20% off Wera tools at Screwfix via the mobile app?
Ends 30/4/24 at 23.55
Re: Shadow foam toolbox/case
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:17 am
by weeksy
Completed now.
Layers 2 and 3
IMG_20240428_090901 by
Steve Weeks, on Flickr
IMG_20240428_090846 by
Steve Weeks, on Flickr
Just waiting for the sticky glue stuff on lid layer to cure.
Re: Shadow foam toolbox/case
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2024 10:00 am
by weeksy
Right then, minor question time.
IMG_20240428_090901 by
Steve Weeks, on Flickr
If you look at the pic and in particular the lid, it goes just past 90deg on this pic. That is now about another 15deg further as the hinge at the back is a little on the cheap/weak side of things. The back of the hinge with the weight is moving away from it's housing and either flexing/bending a bit.
So what i need is 'something' to keep the lid closer to 90deg and not letting it extend past that point. There's no current 'fixing' points i can use but i'm happy to drill/rivet something in place.
I think it just needs something like these corner pieces on this table
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284867970540 ... dZA&edge=1
That'd do the job nicely and stop it going past where we want it.
Longer term i'll likely re-design the whole lot anyway and get a higher quality case to put it all in. This really was designed and bought as a test project and in truth has been brilliant. But it's cheap and cheerful rather than a long term solution.
Re: Shadow foam toolbox/case
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2024 10:04 am
by MrLongbeard
A bit of webbing riveted on one / both corners would do the job
Re: Shadow foam toolbox/case
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2024 10:06 am
by weeksy
MrLongbeard wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 10:04 am
A bit of webbing riveted on one / both corners would do the job
Yeah i was thinking just a little bit of chain with rivets both ends. It may even be cool to use bicycle chain as it will kinda fit in with the whole ethos of MTBing.
Re: Shadow foam toolbox/case
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2024 10:54 am
by weeksy
https://www.penn-elcom.com/200mm-chrome ... ioQAvD_BwE
What do you reckon ? I'm not very good at visualising how things will open/lock.
edit.
https://www.penn-elcom.com/130mm-nickel ... 6EQAvD_BwE
They could be the ones i want.
Bought a couple of these.
@crust has a rivet gun we can use.
Re: Shadow foam toolbox/case
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2024 11:40 am
by cheb
Pelicases used to be well made and waterproof too if that matters.
Re: Shadow foam toolbox/case
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2024 11:51 am
by weeksy
cheb wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 11:40 am
Pelicases used to be well made and waterproof too if that matters.
Well made yes, waterproof not so much.
The case i have is OK but you can see it's on the cheap and cheerful side of things. So at some stage it'll get swapped for a better one.
Re: Shadow foam toolbox/case
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2024 11:53 am
by cheb
Would the modular boxen made by Dewalt, Makita etc do the job?
Re: Shadow foam toolbox/case
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2024 12:00 pm
by weeksy
cheb wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 11:53 am
Would the modular boxen made by Dewalt, Makita etc do the job?
Depends on size really. The box i have is about 450/330/140 and it's about the right size to carry most things in there. I could arguably go bigger and still have some tools not fitted.
Re: Shadow foam toolbox/case
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2024 8:59 am
by weeksy
IMG_20240728_082104 by
steveweeks59, on Flickr
IMG_20240728_082111 by
steveweeks59, on Flickr
IMG_20240728_084936 by
steveweeks59, on Flickr
In truth, it's a bit past it's best. It was cheap and cheap for a reason.
Re: Shadow foam toolbox/case
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 10:33 am
by weeksy
Time to revisit this thread as it's winter and i found what i needed/thought wasn't necessarily what ended up being the correct/most used. So over winter i'm going to re-do all of this and see what we can come up with this time.
I've emailed Redbox again to see if they can laser/CNC etc a custom set as i'd like it doing nicely rather than what i've managed between me and the wife.
We found some tools/additions over the course of the season
Re: Shadow foam toolbox/case
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 10:57 am
by weeksy
Please see your pricing as follows.
One off scan and set up design will be £70.00.
Foam and routing will be £57.91 for 3 layers
Tool etching will be £36.45 for 27 tools.
Foam etching will be £57.00 for 3 layers.
Please note the above prices do not include shipping and VAT.
I've asked them to clarify their terminology a little bit, but it seems to be about £200 assuming i need everything doing in that list.. Which whilst that's a chunk of change, it's not completely ridiculous for what we'd end up with. Whether i'd do that in this particular tool box or buy a better one first, well that's open to discussion with myself today
edit.
Tool etching and foam etching are 'additional' services that can be added.
Tool etching adds up to 9 characters on each tool, like a model, part, your name, initials etc.. (not a lot of use to me in truth)
Foam etching can add a description in the foam next to each item, so if i were to use the 4mm, 5mm, 6mm allen keys like above i could have the size etched into the foam... That's possibly of more use to me, but again, i'm not sure how much.
Re: Shadow foam toolbox/case
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 11:22 am
by MrLongbeard
If the foam needs etching to identify the tool then the idea of shadow foam isn't working / the user is a noob who can't recognise tools at a glance
Re: Shadow foam toolbox/case
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 11:32 am
by weeksy
MrLongbeard wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 11:22 am
If the foam needs etching to identify the tool then the idea of shadow foam isn't working / the user is a noob who can't recognise tools at a glance
I mostly agree but in the instance of the below, it would arguably be a little easier with say a 2mm, 2.5mm and 3mm. But if you've stacked them correctly and know your tools anyway, you know that say the 2nd one along is the 2.5mm

Re: Shadow foam toolbox/case
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 11:35 am
by weeksy
MrLongbeard wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 11:22 am
user is a noob who can't recognise tools at a glance
To add to that, sometimes they are at race meetings. I'll be working on a bike on one side of the gazebo and up to my arms in parts/grease and ask my boy or whoever is 'helping' me to pass me a particular tool at a given time lol... So their level of knowledge is unlikely to be as high as mine (or i'd be letting them fix it themselves)
Re: Shadow foam toolbox/case
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 11:40 am
by MrLongbeard
weeksy wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 11:35 am
MrLongbeard wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 11:22 am
user is a noob who can't recognise tools at a glance
To add to that, sometimes they are at race meetings. I'll be working on a bike on one side of the gazebo and up to my arms in parts/grease and ask my boy or whoever is 'helping' me to pass me a particular tool at a given time lol... So their level of knowledge is unlikely to be as high as mine (or i'd be letting them fix it themselves)
So they get to make multiple trips, every return journey is a learning opportunity

Re: Shadow foam toolbox/case
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 11:44 am
by weeksy
MrLongbeard wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 11:40 am
weeksy wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 11:35 am
MrLongbeard wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 11:22 am
user is a noob who can't recognise tools at a glance
To add to that, sometimes they are at race meetings. I'll be working on a bike on one side of the gazebo and up to my arms in parts/grease and ask my boy or whoever is 'helping' me to pass me a particular tool at a given time lol... So their level of knowledge is unlikely to be as high as mine (or i'd be letting them fix it themselves)
So they get to make multiple trips, every return journey is a learning opportunity
LOL that's when i start losing my shit as time can be a factor. Sometimes we're talking minutes for a job that arguably should take longer and you need things right fucking now

It's OK when we're at home and doing stuff but at race meetings, time can be very much of the essence.
In truth, i don't think it's worth the extra to me in this case... but i do like it as an option.
the actual costs were honestly less than i expected, i now just need to work out a plan in terms of tools/layout.
Re: Shadow foam toolbox/case
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 11:58 am
by MrLongbeard
A dymo label printer should be cheap enough on ebay
Re: Shadow foam toolbox/case
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 12:00 pm
by weeksy
MrLongbeard wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 11:58 am
A dymo label printer should be cheap enough on ebay
Got one... excellent point, never even thought of using that in truth.