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Re: Are we in a simulation?

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IccyV2 wrote: Sat Mar 21, 2026 12:04 pm Apparently the most advanced AI was asked what the likelihood was that we are living in a simulation and after considering all the data that mankind has amassed over a few thousand years it predicted that its a 25% chance that we are.
The way it was explained to me is that that level of prediction from an advanced technology intelligence should worry us a lot.
This reminds me of a conversation I had in 1992 during a particularly hilarious 12hours after ingesting two blotters of acid.
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dern wrote: Sat Mar 21, 2026 11:15 pm ... you have to live your life based on the assumption that you have free will...
Yeahbut,I'm married and I'm allowed free will when she says so. :(
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Skub wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2026 5:30 pm
dern wrote: Sat Mar 21, 2026 11:15 pm ... you have to live your life based on the assumption that you have free will...
Yeahbut,I'm married and I'm allowed free will when she says so. :(
I just asked and she said yes, you're correct. :obscene-drinkingcheers:
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derek badger wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2026 4:37 pm
IccyV2 wrote: Sat Mar 21, 2026 12:04 pm Apparently the most advanced AI was asked what the likelihood was that we are living in a simulation and after considering all the data that mankind has amassed over a few thousand years it predicted that its a 25% chance that we are.
The way it was explained to me is that that level of prediction from an advanced technology intelligence should worry us a lot.
This reminds me of a conversation I had in 1992 during a particularly hilarious 12hours after ingesting two blotters of acid.
Southern softie acid drinkers.
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Re: Are we in a simulation?

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The CAB and some charities offer a free will service. In England, I'm not sure about Scotland, the laws are different.
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Silly Car wrote: Sat Mar 21, 2026 12:08 pm I’m Spartacus!
No you're not.
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What I always come back to is, if this IS a simulation, why isn't it simulating something way cooler?
Why is it simulating IT nerds, Dubai-expats, and folk who don't even ride bikes any more, grouching on a forum?
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DefTrap wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2026 9:56 am What I always come back to is, if this IS a simulation, why isn't it simulating something way cooler?
Why is it simulating IT nerds, Dubai-expats, and folk who don't even ride bikes any more, grouching on a forum?
Speak for yourself. :P

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Scientists have now arrived at the conclusion that it is not possible for human DNA to exist without some sort of outside intelligent interference.

About 200,000 years ago we mutated from other species and humans were born, they can see the stitched DNA and it’s impossible for it to happen naturally. They can actually see the ends of two parts and where they were joined to create a mutation, it exists nowhere else and cannot happen accidentally.

There is currently no explanation, just this discovery.

So maybe not a simulation but an experiment by a more advanced intelligence. If time is not a factor for ‘them’ then they could be sitting and watching in a cosmic laboratory just for shits and giggles.
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IccyV2 wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 1:37 am Scientists have now arrived at the conclusion that it is not possible for human DNA to exist without some sort of outside intelligent interference.

About 200,000 years ago we mutated from other species and humans were born, they can see the stitched DNA and it’s impossible for it to happen naturally. They can actually see the ends of two parts and where they were joined to create a mutation, it exists nowhere else and cannot happen accidentally.

There is currently no explanation, just this discovery.

So maybe not a simulation but an experiment by a more advanced intelligence. If time is not a factor for ‘them’ then they could be sitting and watching in a cosmic laboratory just for shits and giggles.
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IccyV2 wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 1:37 am Scientists have now arrived at the conclusion that it is not possible for human DNA to exist without some sort of outside intelligent interference.

About 200,000 years ago we mutated from other species and humans were born, they can see the stitched DNA and it’s impossible for it to happen naturally. They can actually see the ends of two parts and where they were joined to create a mutation, it exists nowhere else and cannot happen accidentally.

There is currently no explanation, just this discovery.

So maybe not a simulation but an experiment by a more advanced intelligence. If time is not a factor for ‘them’ then they could be sitting and watching in a cosmic laboratory just for shits and giggles.
"currently no explanation" all feels a bit TimeTeam where Tony Robinson picks up a rock and then an artist sketches a drawing of what this "definte prehistoric helicopter" may have looked like.
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DefTrap wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 10:01 am
IccyV2 wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 1:37 am Scientists have now arrived at the conclusion that it is not possible for human DNA to exist without some sort of outside intelligent interference.

About 200,000 years ago we mutated from other species and humans were born, they can see the stitched DNA and it’s impossible for it to happen naturally. They can actually see the ends of two parts and where they were joined to create a mutation, it exists nowhere else and cannot happen accidentally.

There is currently no explanation, just this discovery.

So maybe not a simulation but an experiment by a more advanced intelligence. If time is not a factor for ‘them’ then they could be sitting and watching in a cosmic laboratory just for shits and giggles.
"currently no explanation" all feels a bit TimeTeam where Tony Robinson picks up a rock and then an artist sketches a drawing of what this "definte prehistoric helicopter" may have looked like.
You do know that the Flintstones are based on the truth don't you?
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I always thought the evolutionary process through the australopithecines and homo species was pretty unremarkable in terms of the genetic changes.
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MyLittleStudPony wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 12:01 pm I always thought the evolutionary process through the australopithecines and homo species was pretty unremarkable in terms of the genetic changes.
He said homo. :silent:
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I like the 'it exists nowhere else' bit.

The universe is big, like really, really big. :D In an infinite universe unlikely things become almost certainties, somewhere, at some time.

I guess they mean 'we haven't seen it before'.
The plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'.
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MyLittleStudPony wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 12:01 pm I always thought the evolutionary process through the australopithecines and homo species was pretty unremarkable in terms of the genetic changes.
What about Homo Habilis? The ancestors of all tool makers.
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Count Steer wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 12:08 pm I like the 'it exists nowhere else' bit.

The universe is big, like really, really big. :D In an infinite universe unlikely things become almost certainties, somewhere, at some time.

I guess they mean 'we haven't seen it before'.
I think the point was they understand how it works now and it's impossible to do without some method that we haven't discovered yet, and because they know how it works they know that it can't happen by accident in nature. In layman's terms I understood that it was like two bottles of milk sitting in the fridge side by side and somehow unscrewing their own tops and mixing the milk, all on their own - it's just not possible - but they can demonstrate that it happened, they just don't know who did it.
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Buckaroo wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 2:19 pm
MyLittleStudPony wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 12:01 pm I always thought the evolutionary process through the australopithecines and homo species was pretty unremarkable in terms of the genetic changes.
What about Homo Habilis? The ancestors of all tool makers.
IIRC it's part of a fairly well understood evolutionary process.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_modern_human
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Count Steer wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 12:08 pm I like the 'it exists nowhere else' bit.

The universe is big, like really, really big. :D In an infinite universe unlikely things become almost certainties, somewhere, at some time.

I guess they mean 'we haven't seen it before'.
And I like the ‘Scientists have now arrived at the conclusion that…’ bit.

…so nobody queries the conclusion, or any other bollox that follows.

You’ve seen it before:

“Research has shown that…”
“Extensive investigation by the renowned Professor Dr Archimedes Principle has found that…”
“It is generally accepted that…”

You already know that it’s false.
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MyLittleStudPony wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 4:50 pm
Buckaroo wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 2:19 pm
MyLittleStudPony wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 12:01 pm I always thought the evolutionary process through the australopithecines and homo species was pretty unremarkable in terms of the genetic changes.
What about Homo Habilis? The ancestors of all tool makers.
IIRC it's part of a fairly well understood evolutionary process.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_modern_human
Well understood, but evolving :obscene-drinkingcheers:
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