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Re: Are we in a simulation?
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2026 4:37 pm
by derek badger
IccyV2 wrote: Sat Mar 21, 2026 12:04 pm
Apparently the most advanced AI was asked what the likelihood was that we are living in a simulation and after considering all the data that mankind has amassed over a few thousand years it predicted that its a 25% chance that we are.
The way it was explained to me is that that level of prediction from an advanced technology intelligence should worry us a lot.
This reminds me of a conversation I had in 1992 during a particularly hilarious 12hours after ingesting two blotters of acid.
Re: Are we in a simulation?
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2026 5:30 pm
by Skub
dern wrote: Sat Mar 21, 2026 11:15 pm
... you have to live your life based on the assumption that you have free will...
Yeahbut,I'm married and I'm allowed free will when she says so.

Re: Are we in a simulation?
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2026 10:28 pm
by Buckaroo
Skub wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2026 5:30 pm
dern wrote: Sat Mar 21, 2026 11:15 pm
... you have to live your life based on the assumption that you have free will...
Yeahbut,I'm married and I'm allowed free will when she says so.
I just asked and she said yes, you're correct.

Re: Are we in a simulation?
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2026 6:20 am
by Trinity765
derek badger wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2026 4:37 pm
IccyV2 wrote: Sat Mar 21, 2026 12:04 pm
Apparently the most advanced AI was asked what the likelihood was that we are living in a simulation and after considering all the data that mankind has amassed over a few thousand years it predicted that its a 25% chance that we are.
The way it was explained to me is that that level of prediction from an advanced technology intelligence should worry us a lot.
This reminds me of a conversation I had in 1992 during a particularly hilarious 12hours after ingesting two blotters of acid.
Southern softie acid drinkers.
Re: Are we in a simulation?
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2026 7:34 am
by cheb
The CAB and some charities offer a free will service. In England, I'm not sure about Scotland, the laws are different.
Re: Are we in a simulation?
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2026 8:34 am
by Spartacus
Silly Car wrote: Sat Mar 21, 2026 12:08 pm
I’m Spartacus!
No you're not.
Re: Are we in a simulation?
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2026 9:56 am
by DefTrap
What I always come back to is, if this IS a simulation, why isn't it simulating something way cooler?
Why is it simulating IT nerds, Dubai-expats, and folk who don't even ride bikes any more, grouching on a forum?
Re: Are we in a simulation?
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2026 7:03 pm
by MyLittleStudPony
DefTrap wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2026 9:56 am
What I always come back to is, if this IS a simulation, why isn't it simulating something way cooler?
Why is it simulating IT nerds, Dubai-expats, and folk who don't even ride bikes any more, grouching on a forum?
Speak for yourself.
My life is mainly not working, continental strength lager, a Telegram channel which sells all the naughty stuff, and PAWGs. Also walking to the Co-op for shopping most days.
Re: Are we in a simulation?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2026 1:37 am
by IccyV2
Scientists have now arrived at the conclusion that it is not possible for human DNA to exist without some sort of outside intelligent interference.
About 200,000 years ago we mutated from other species and humans were born, they can see the stitched DNA and it’s impossible for it to happen naturally. They can actually see the ends of two parts and where they were joined to create a mutation, it exists nowhere else and cannot happen accidentally.
There is currently no explanation, just this discovery.
So maybe not a simulation but an experiment by a more advanced intelligence. If time is not a factor for ‘them’ then they could be sitting and watching in a cosmic laboratory just for shits and giggles.
Re: Are we in a simulation?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2026 5:44 am
by Trinity765
IccyV2 wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 1:37 am
Scientists have now arrived at the conclusion that it is not possible for human DNA to exist without some sort of outside intelligent interference.
About 200,000 years ago we mutated from other species and humans were born, they can see the stitched DNA and it’s impossible for it to happen naturally. They can actually see the ends of two parts and where they were joined to create a mutation, it exists nowhere else and cannot happen accidentally.
There is currently no explanation, just this discovery.
So maybe not a simulation but an experiment by a more advanced intelligence. If time is not a factor for ‘them’ then they could be sitting and watching in a cosmic laboratory just for shits and giggles.
It was hard not to read that in Richard Burton's voice.
Re: Are we in a simulation?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2026 10:01 am
by DefTrap
IccyV2 wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 1:37 am
Scientists have now arrived at the conclusion that it is not possible for human DNA to exist without some sort of outside intelligent interference.
About 200,000 years ago we mutated from other species and humans were born, they can see the stitched DNA and it’s impossible for it to happen naturally. They can actually see the ends of two parts and where they were joined to create a mutation, it exists nowhere else and cannot happen accidentally.
There is currently no explanation, just this discovery.
So maybe not a simulation but an experiment by a more advanced intelligence. If time is not a factor for ‘them’ then they could be sitting and watching in a cosmic laboratory just for shits and giggles.
"currently no explanation" all feels a bit TimeTeam where Tony Robinson picks up a rock and then an artist sketches a drawing of what this "definte prehistoric helicopter" may have looked like.
Re: Are we in a simulation?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2026 10:06 am
by Buckaroo
DefTrap wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 10:01 am
IccyV2 wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 1:37 am
Scientists have now arrived at the conclusion that it is not possible for human DNA to exist without some sort of outside intelligent interference.
About 200,000 years ago we mutated from other species and humans were born, they can see the stitched DNA and it’s impossible for it to happen naturally. They can actually see the ends of two parts and where they were joined to create a mutation, it exists nowhere else and cannot happen accidentally.
There is currently no explanation, just this discovery.
So maybe not a simulation but an experiment by a more advanced intelligence. If time is not a factor for ‘them’ then they could be sitting and watching in a cosmic laboratory just for shits and giggles.
"currently no explanation" all feels a bit TimeTeam where Tony Robinson picks up a rock and then an artist sketches a drawing of what this "definte prehistoric helicopter" may have looked like.
You do know that the Flintstones are based on the truth don't you?
Re: Are we in a simulation?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2026 12:01 pm
by MyLittleStudPony
I always thought the evolutionary process through the australopithecines and homo species was pretty unremarkable in terms of the genetic changes.
Re: Are we in a simulation?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2026 12:03 pm
by Skub
MyLittleStudPony wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 12:01 pm
I always thought the evolutionary process through the australopithecines and homo species was pretty unremarkable in terms of the genetic changes.
He said homo.

Re: Are we in a simulation?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2026 12:08 pm
by Count Steer
I like the 'it exists nowhere else' bit.
The universe is big, like
really, really big.

In an infinite universe unlikely things become almost certainties, somewhere, at some time.
I guess they mean 'we haven't seen it before'.
Re: Are we in a simulation?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2026 2:19 pm
by Buckaroo
MyLittleStudPony wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 12:01 pm
I always thought the evolutionary process through the australopithecines and homo species was pretty unremarkable in terms of the genetic changes.
What about Homo Habilis? The ancestors of all tool makers.
Re: Are we in a simulation?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2026 2:37 pm
by IccyV2
Count Steer wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 12:08 pm
I like the 'it exists nowhere else' bit.
The universe is big, like
really, really big.

In an infinite universe unlikely things become almost certainties, somewhere, at some time.
I guess they mean 'we haven't seen it before'.
I think the point was they understand how it works now and it's impossible to do without some method that we haven't discovered yet, and because they know how it works they know that it can't happen by accident in nature. In layman's terms I understood that it was like two bottles of milk sitting in the fridge side by side and somehow unscrewing their own tops and mixing the milk, all on their own - it's just not possible - but they can demonstrate that it happened, they just don't know who did it.
Re: Are we in a simulation?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2026 4:50 pm
by MyLittleStudPony
Buckaroo wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 2:19 pm
MyLittleStudPony wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 12:01 pm
I always thought the evolutionary process through the australopithecines and homo species was pretty unremarkable in terms of the genetic changes.
What about Homo Habilis? The ancestors of all tool makers.
IIRC it's part of a fairly well understood evolutionary process.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_modern_human
Re: Are we in a simulation?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2026 5:08 pm
by Wossname
Count Steer wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 12:08 pm
I like the 'it exists nowhere else' bit.
The universe is big, like
really, really big.

In an infinite universe unlikely things become almost certainties, somewhere, at some time.
I guess they mean 'we haven't seen it before'.
And I like the ‘Scientists have now arrived at the conclusion that…’ bit.
…so nobody queries the conclusion, or any other bollox that follows.
You’ve seen it before:
“Research has shown that…”
“Extensive investigation by the renowned Professor Dr Archimedes Principle has found that…”
“It is generally accepted that…”
You already know that it’s false.
Re: Are we in a simulation?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2026 5:31 pm
by Buckaroo
MyLittleStudPony wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 4:50 pm
Buckaroo wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 2:19 pm
MyLittleStudPony wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 12:01 pm
I always thought the evolutionary process through the australopithecines and homo species was pretty unremarkable in terms of the genetic changes.
What about Homo Habilis? The ancestors of all tool makers.
IIRC it's part of a fairly well understood evolutionary process.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_modern_human
Well understood, but evolving
