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Re: Politics forum stay or go ?

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2026 1:28 pm
by Pirahna
There's a spelling mistake in the extra text added to the forum header.

Re: Politics forum stay or go ?

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2026 1:31 pm
by weeksy
Pirahna wrote: Sat Jan 31, 2026 1:28 pm There's a spelling mistake in the extra text added to the forum header.
Sorry, I was supposed to write, bunch of cunts

Re: Politics forum stay or go ?

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2026 1:38 pm
by Sunny
IccyV2 wrote: Sat Jan 31, 2026 10:41 am
Pirahna wrote: Sat Jan 31, 2026 10:11 am
IccyV2 wrote: Sat Jan 31, 2026 9:47 am ....
What you could have said was airline pilots looking down their noses at people they, and you, regard as being beneath them.
I could but it wouldn't have been true.
Yes they looked down their noses at it without doubt, but because of the shocking behaviour they saw, not because airline pilots are naturally above anyone, even at 40,000ft.

It's like watching clips of drunken idiots outside a pub fighting with bouncers, most people would look down on them because of what they're doing, they might be Chartered Accountants, but that's got nothing to do with it.
I agree with this. I try to never go in there as it pisses me off.

Recently I've been so incensed by what's going on in the US at the mo I thought I might go in and have a conversation about it. Opened a thread, read a few comments, and was immediately reminded why I don't bother. It's not exactly highbrow.

I'd hate it if it that kind of neanderthal stuff came into the main forums.

I'm tempted to say leave it to keep it contained, but maybe it's better to ditch it, and then we'll then get to keep people around like Dazzle, who I miss.

Re: Politics forum stay or go ?

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2026 2:00 pm
by JackyJoll
MingtheMerciless wrote: Sat Jan 31, 2026 11:44 am
IccyV2 wrote: Sat Jan 31, 2026 11:26 am
MingtheMerciless wrote: Sat Jan 31, 2026 11:05 am The ISS crew might have a word or two to say about that😂
I don't know what astronauts get paid but pilots get paid a lot less than I thought they would, a First Officers take-home pay is less than an average electrician would earn at our place and even a Captain with a decade of experience wouldn't get close to a Directors pay.
It was a surprise when they were telling me, it's a job you need to love rather than doing it to get rich.
It's even worse if you're a domestic route pilot in the US, I watched a documentary a few years ago and the pay was shocking considering the responsibility they have.
Supply and demand. Too many guys are willing to spend their own money on the training, because of their dreams of a glamorous life.

Re: Politics forum stay or go ?

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2026 2:55 pm
by Mussels
JackyJoll wrote: Sat Jan 31, 2026 2:00 pm
MingtheMerciless wrote: Sat Jan 31, 2026 11:44 am
IccyV2 wrote: Sat Jan 31, 2026 11:26 am

I don't know what astronauts get paid but pilots get paid a lot less than I thought they would, a First Officers take-home pay is less than an average electrician would earn at our place and even a Captain with a decade of experience wouldn't get close to a Directors pay.
It was a surprise when they were telling me, it's a job you need to love rather than doing it to get rich.
It's even worse if you're a domestic route pilot in the US, I watched a documentary a few years ago and the pay was shocking considering the responsibility they have.
Supply and demand. Too many guys are willing to spend their own money on the training, because of their dreams of a glamorous life.
I wanted a career swap many years ago and considered getting my comercial pilots license but I took advice beforehand and spoke to some pilots. At the time budget airlines were driving down salaries and the glory days of working for BA were on the way out. There were more than enough ex-military pilots and the work was little more than being a glorified van or bus driver.
Before that I had been on a night out in Dubai with a couple of pilots and a bunch of UK hostesses, that was fun but just showed how they were normal people with their own issues.

I like how instead of a thread descending into an argument about politics, this started as that and turned into a discussion on 80s bike mags.

Re: Politics forum stay or go ?

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2026 3:32 pm
by Mr Moofo
IccyV2 wrote: Sat Jan 31, 2026 12:36 pm
weeksy wrote: Sat Jan 31, 2026 11:50 am
I’m impressed they’d even heard of it 😊
They hadn't, I told them about it.
We've got a forum we use and I told them about this place, but you've seen my comments on what they thought.
And why does what a bunch of Emirates pilots and hangarounds think matter. It’s hardly a balanced opinion of the outside world

Re: Politics forum stay or go ?

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2026 3:36 pm
by Mr Moofo
Mussels wrote: Sat Jan 31, 2026 2:55 pm
JackyJoll wrote: Sat Jan 31, 2026 2:00 pm
MingtheMerciless wrote: Sat Jan 31, 2026 11:44 am

It's even worse if you're a domestic route pilot in the US, I watched a documentary a few years ago and the pay was shocking considering the responsibility they have.
Supply and demand. Too many guys are willing to spend their own money on the training, because of their dreams of a glamorous life.
I wanted a career swap many years ago and considered getting my comercial pilots license but I took advice beforehand and spoke to some pilots. At the time budget airlines were driving down salaries and the glory days of working for BA were on the way out. There were more than enough ex-military pilots and the work was little more than being a glorified van or bus driver.
Before that I had been on a night out in Dubai with a couple of pilots and a bunch of UK hostesses, that was fun but just showed how they were normal people with their own issues.

I like how instead of a thread descending into an argument about politics, this started as that and turned into a discussion on 80s bike mags.
About 20 years ago I was doing a fair amount of travelling in the US, and revenue watching an expose of the local airlines where pilots were on about 60K USD a year. When you saw them in terminals in shiny polyester suits, and really dog-eared white pilot shorts, I could believe it …

Re: Politics forum stay or go ?

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2026 4:01 pm
by Yorick
IccyV2 wrote: Sat Jan 31, 2026 1:24 pm
weeksy wrote: Sat Jan 31, 2026 1:13 pm Let’s just go back a step here.

Moderators are doing this for free and unless people report the threads they are potentially not even looked at.

Very few reports come out way. So not everything gets looked at.

I still don’t actually know what post you keep referring to
This is a well trodden path, we've been down it many times, if you can't see it then you can't see it.

I don't even know why I replied to be honest, all I've done now is put my head up and it won't be long before the shots start coming in again, or one of the weirdos googles the username and starts poking into my personal life again....3,2,1....
There's a few twats on here who have been posting shite at me. Some as far back as VD.
Most of them are on ignore :)

Re: Politics forum stay or go ?

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2026 4:10 pm
by JackyJoll
Psst!

(Whispers) Did you hear about Icarus and Yorick’s personal life?

Shocking! 😮

Re: Politics forum stay or go ?

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2026 4:19 pm
by Cousin Jack
IccyV2 wrote: Sat Jan 31, 2026 1:24 pm
weeksy wrote: Sat Jan 31, 2026 1:13 pm Let’s just go back a step here.

Moderators are doing this for free and unless people report the threads they are potentially not even looked at.

Very few reports come out way. So not everything gets looked at.

I still don’t actually know what post you keep referring to
This is a well trodden path, we've been down it many times, if you can't see it then you can't see it.

I don't even know why I replied to be honest, all I've done now is put my head up and it won't be long before the shots start coming in again, or one of the weirdos googles the username and starts poking into my personal life again....3,2,1....
I ggogled and concluded you must be part of the Inns of Court and City Yeomanry, aka The Devils Own. Apparently King George III rather disliked lawyers.

Seriously, I can remember the hoo ha back in VD days, and I sincerely hope that no-one ever starts taking stuff IRL again. That really is crossing a line.

Re: Politics forum stay or go ?

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2026 6:07 pm
by Felix
JackyJoll wrote: Sat Jan 31, 2026 4:10 pm Psst!

(Whispers) Did you hear about Icarus and Yorick’s personal life?

Shocking! 😮
No need to whisper. You are on the list.

Re: Politics forum stay or go ?

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2026 6:32 pm
by MyLittleStudPony
Airline pilots! Chartered accountants! Tooley goons!

I thought the moderation is fine.

And I can see the left wing narrative is more compelling.

Re: Politics forum stay or go ?

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2026 7:04 pm
by JackyJoll
MyLittleStudPony wrote: Sat Jan 31, 2026 6:32 pm And I can see the left wing narrative is more compelling.
Yes, they’re into compulsion in a big way.

Re: Politics forum stay or go ?

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2026 7:59 pm
by IccyV2
Mr Moofo wrote: Sat Jan 31, 2026 3:32 pm
IccyV2 wrote: Sat Jan 31, 2026 12:36 pm
weeksy wrote: Sat Jan 31, 2026 11:50 am
I’m impressed they’d even heard of it 😊
They hadn't, I told them about it.
We've got a forum we use and I told them about this place, but you've seen my comments on what they thought.
And why does what a bunch of Emirates pilots and hangarounds think matter. It’s hardly a balanced opinion of the outside world
And the posters in the political section have a balanced opinion of the outside world do they?

You'd rather have your left-wing pals in there soothing your angst instead of a bunch of motorcycle enthusiasts who are keen enough to do trackdays 3-4 times a month and ride their bikes a lot. And without doubt they're certainly more balanced to judge what is decent motorcycle forum material than you or the posters in the political section of this forum.

Blokes without political axes to constantly grind, who ride motorcycles a lot, scary stuff eh.

Re: Politics forum stay or go ?

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2026 8:03 pm
by JackyJoll
Felix wrote: Sat Jan 31, 2026 6:07 pm
JackyJoll wrote: Sat Jan 31, 2026 4:10 pm Psst!

(Whispers) Did you hear about Icarus and Yorick’s personal life?

Shocking! 😮
No need to whisper. You are on the list.
Don’t tell him, Felix!

Re: Politics forum stay or go ?

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2026 8:11 pm
by Cousin Jack
IccyV2 wrote: Sat Jan 31, 2026 7:59 pm
Blokes without political axes to constantly grind, who ride motorcycles a lot, scary stuff eh.
As far as I can tell blokes who ride motorcycles have a wide variety of axes they like to grind. Some of them grind the axes on both sides, others favour a single side.

Re: Politics forum stay or go ?

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2026 8:14 pm
by IccyV2
That section had potential if it was moderated to maintain a decent political balance.

I put up a thread about inflation in there a good year before it hit and way way before the cost of living crisis appeared. That was very good advice if people had listened and not ruined the thread with spite. I get paid very well to provide consultancy and tell people what's going to happen to the economy in 12-18 months and they keep inviting me back and paying me because I'm usually right, this forum got it for free. There was proper money to be made with the advice I shared back then.

Taipan predicted Trump back in the WH when the odds were very favourable, he could have made you a good few bob.

There could be good stuff to post from some good people, if it was moderated to maintain a good political balance.

Sadly all the people that were blamed as protagonists got banned or left and surprise surprise it's still the same absolute mess.
So clearly bans were given to the wrong people and the wrong people were forced off the forum, or left through frustration, and the mess carried on.
Done differently it would have all been sorted now.

Re: Politics forum stay or go ?

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2026 8:28 pm
by weeksy
IccyV2 wrote: Sat Jan 31, 2026 8:14 pm That section had potential if it was moderated to maintain a decent political balance.

I put up a thread about inflation in there a good year before it hit and way way before the cost of living crisis appeared. That was very good advice if people had listened and not ruined the thread with spite. I get paid very well to provide consultancy and tell people what's going to happen to the economy in 12-18 months and they keep inviting me back and paying me because I'm usually right, this forum got it for free. There was proper money to be made with the advice I shared back then.

Taipan predicted Trump back in the WH when the odds were very favourable, he could have made you a good few bob.

There could be good stuff to post from some good people, if it was moderated to maintain a good political balance.

Sadly all the people that were blamed as protagonists got banned or left and surprise surprise it's still the same absolute mess.
So clearly bans were given to the wrong people and the wrong people were forced off the forum, or left through frustration, and the mess carried on.
Done differently it would have all been sorted now.
lol thanks. Glad to be of service. You going to continue having a pop or are you done?

Re: Politics forum stay or go ?

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2026 8:58 pm
by ZRX61
weeksy wrote: Sat Jan 31, 2026 1:13 pm Let’s just go back a step here.

Moderators are doing this for free and unless people report the threads they are potentially not even looked at.

Very few reports come out way. So not everything gets looked at.

I still don’t actually know what post you keep referring to
I asked you to look at one post a couple of days ago & you plainly stated that you couldn't be fucking bothered & gave me shit about it.

Re: Politics forum stay or go ?

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2026 9:01 pm
by ZRX61
MyLittleStudPony wrote: Sat Jan 31, 2026 6:32 pm Meat servos! Chartered accountants! Tooley goons!
FTFY :)