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What's the differences then? (various MT's)
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:43 pm
by Noggin
Chatting the other day to some friends and trying to work out the differences between the MT-09 and the MT-10 - I mean, the 10's got a slightly bigger engine but does that make 'that' much difference??
And then, the MT-10 and the MT-10SP??
I don't understand the differences enough to justify the price difference!! I mean, ok, the fancy doodah Ohlins suspension is worth some of the difference, but would an average road rider notice?
And what's this electronically controlled suspension?? I have to control/change the suspension as I'm going as well as not crashing??
Anyway - differences/comparisons between
MT-09 vs MT-10
MT-10 vs MT-10SP
Re: What's the differences then? (various MT's)
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:48 pm
by Trinity765
MT 07 Fast
MT 09 Faster
MT 10 Fastest
Re: What's the differences then? (various MT's)
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:50 pm
by Yorick
Oh God. First we let the girlies ride bikes. Then they become comedy bike journalists.
Re: What's the differences then? (various MT's)
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:50 pm
by weeksy
MT09 triple engine 115bhp
MT10 cross plane crank 4 160bhp, bigger, wider
MT10 SP, same but Ohlins front and rear
Re: What's the differences then? (various MT's)
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:50 pm
by Yorick
Re: What's the differences then? (various MT's)
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:51 pm
by Buckaroo
Yorick wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:50 pm
Oh God. First we let the girlies ride bikes. Then they become comedy bike journalists.
Well, it sure made me laugh.
Re: What's the differences then? (various MT's)
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:53 pm
by Yorick
Buckaroo wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:51 pm
Yorick wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:50 pm
Oh God. First we let the girlies ride bikes. Then they become comedy bike journalists.
Well, it sure made me laugh.
Shush. Don't encourage them
Re: What's the differences then? (various MT's)
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:55 pm
by ChrisW
No, not that you have to but rather it is adjustable on the fly should you want to. Ohlins Semi Active suspension is electronically controlled - it adapts its behaviour depending on various conditions eg. acceleration, speed lean angle etc.
Arguably not necessary on the road but then a lot of things aren't, but are nice to have.
Re: What's the differences then? (various MT's)
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:04 pm
by Trinity765
weeksy wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:50 pm
MT09 triple engine 115bhp
MT10 cross plane crank 4 160bhp, bigger, wider
MT10 SP, same but Ohlins front and rear
Fast
Faster
Less bumpy
Re: What's the differences then? (various MT's)
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:05 pm
by weeksy
Trinity765 wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:04 pm
weeksy wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:50 pm
MT09 triple engine 115bhp
MT10 cross plane crank 4 160bhp, bigger, wider
MT10 SP, same but Ohlins front and rear
Fast
Faster
Less bumpy
Getting all serious a minute, I'm not sure the Ohlins is better for many people
Re: What's the differences then? (various MT's)
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:10 pm
by Noggin
Trinity765 wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:48 pm
MT 07 Fast
MT 09 Faster
MT 10 Fastest
Totally not interested in the MT-07 - too small for me!! LOL
weeksy wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:50 pm
MT09 triple engine 115bhp
MT10 cross plane crank 4 160bhp, bigger, wider
MT10 SP, same but Ohlins front and rear
someone said the MT10 has the same engine as an R1M?
And thank you, that makes a bit more sense, didn't realise the 09 and the 10 had different engine styles too
ChrisW wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:55 pm
No, not that you have to but rather it is adjustable on the fly should you want to. Ohlins Semi Active suspension is electronically controlled - it adapts its behaviour depending on various conditions eg. acceleration, speed lean angle etc.
Arguably not necessary on the road but then a lot of things aren't, but are nice to have.
It's an awful lot of extra money for a 'nice to have' though!! LOL I half like the idea of the adaptation, but I've never had a bike with fancy 'basic' suspension, so not sure if it would be fab or freaky!
Yorick wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:50 pm
Oh God. First we let the girlies ride bikes. Then they become comedy bike journalists.
weeksy wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:05 pm
Trinity765 wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:04 pm
weeksy wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:50 pm
MT09 triple engine 115bhp
MT10 cross plane crank 4 160bhp, bigger, wider
MT10 SP, same but Ohlins front and rear
Fast
Faster
Less bumpy
Getting all serious a minute, I'm not sure the Ohlins is better for many people
I've never had fancy suspension, so I've got no idea!! LOL
Re: What's the differences then? (various MT's)
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:17 pm
by weeksy
The mt10 has a variation on the R1, which is a variation on an R1m. So they're half right.
Re: What's the differences then? (various MT's)
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:05 pm
by Noggin
weeksy wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:17 pm
The mt10 has a variation on the R1, which is a variation on an R1m. So they're half right.
Thank you. It does make more sense now I know the engines are different!! LOL LOL
Tried to sit on an MT10 last week but the 'city' dealer didn't have one in stock (or an MT09
) and wasn't interested in talking to two girlies in frocks!! LOL
Re: What's the differences then? (various MT's)
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:21 pm
by Taff
as always, make sure you test ride them all.
I test rode a MT09GT a couple of weeks ago and I wasn't really impressed enough to buy one considering I tend to keep my vehicles for a very long time. There was nothing really bad about, actually there was a lot to like, but it but it didn't really blow me away. The motor certainly wasn't lacking power as it accelerated very very well, but that 'taking off like a scalded cat' feeling got wearing quite quickly, as did the engine noise, that got right on my nerves after a while but a pair of ear plugs would sort that out easily.
and the 'comfort seat' is a crime against the trade descriptions. (the bike had 2 miles on the clock when I set off)
Re: What's the differences then? (various MT's)
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:29 pm
by Noggin
Taff wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:21 pm
as always, make sure you test ride them all.
I test rode a MT09GT a couple of weeks ago and I wasn't really impressed enough to buy one considering I tend to keep my vehicles for a very long time. There was nothing really bad about, actually there was a lot to like, but it but it didn't really blow me away. The motor certainly wasn't lacking power as it accelerated very very well, but that 'taking off like a scalded cat' feeling got wearing quite quickly, as did the engine noise, that got right on my nerves after a while but a pair of ear plugs would sort that out easily.
and the 'comfort seat' is a crime against the trade descriptions. (the bike had 2 miles on the clock when I set off)
I did try the MT07 and bloody loved it. But it's way too small for what I'd want to do (physically and engine) - if I can still manage a bike next year!! LOL
But yes, will definitely find a dealer that has a few bikes that I could try
Re: What's the differences then? (various MT's)
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:57 pm
by Supermofo
Yeah not much similar between the 09 and 10. Pretty much totally different bikes from engine to frame. The 10 engine with a pipe sounds glorious, like a Moto GP bike
Re: What's the differences then? (various MT's)
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:59 pm
by Noggin
wow, the MT07 I rode had an awesome sound!! But that's just WOW!!!
Re: What's the differences then? (various MT's)
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 7:02 pm
by ChrisW
Supermofo wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:57 pm
Yeah not much similar between the 09 and 10. Pretty much totally different bikes from engine to frame. The 10 engine with a pipe sounds glorious, like a Moto GP bike
....and I'm looking at MT-10s on ebay again.
Re: What's the differences then? (various MT's)
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 7:05 pm
by Noggin
Re: What's the differences then? (various MT's)
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 7:06 pm
by Rockburner
No-one mention the MT-01.....